[amsat-bb] Re: so long

Michael Mat_62 at charter.net
Fri Sep 20 14:53:09 PDT 2013

If you can call having the bird languishing in storage waiting for a 
launch opportunity that will never come "active".
Michael, W4HIJ
On 9/19/2013 10:30 PM, John Stephensen wrote:
> AMSAT-NA abandoned the Eagle project years ago. Only AMSAT-DL has an 
> "active" HEO project. with P3E.
> 73,
> John
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael" <Mat_62 at charter.net>
> To: <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 21:06 UTC
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long
>> I said this a couple of weeks back but since reading all the 
>> responses in this thread, I think I'll say it again.  I'm almost 
>> fifty one years old. I highly doubt that I will ever see an HEO bird 
>> launched in my remaining lifetime. The economic realities of this day 
>> and time make the possibility of a launch extremely remote and I 
>> don't see that changing in the near future.  I can't understand why 
>> AMSAT continues to string people along with promises of  "maybe 
>> someday if you donate". Why can't they just be upfront about it and 
>> tell people,  " Hey it aint going to happen".  There is absolutely 
>> nothing wrong with the new direction AMSAT has taken in pursuing 
>> cubesat technology and launches, I applaud them for it  but the 
>> continued lip service to the  " we want an HEO crowd"  gets old.  I 
>> for one am not that gullible. Quit telling people what they want to 
>> hear and tell them the truth.
>> 73,
>> Michael, W4HIJ
>> On 9/17/2013 7:02 PM, i8cvs wrote:
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John Becker" <w0jab at big-river.net>
>>> To: <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:58 PM
>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] so long
>>>> I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM
>>>> only satellite attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as
>>>> well as other joining AMSAT in the first place.
>>>> Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40
>>>>   happens.
>>>> John
>>> Hi John,W0JAB
>>> I was AMSAT member numbar 798 since OSCAR-6 but I decided
>>> to live my membership after AO40 died because AMSAT changed
>>> his policy with only FM satellites.
>>> I remember that OSCAR-10,OSCAR13 and AO40 where called
>>> "the satellites for all" and I invested a lot of money for equipments
>>> and antennas dedicated for HEO satellites for nothing in the near
>>> future.
>>> In my opinion the satellite operation is not only an activity to 
>>> collect
>>> grids but it is mostly experimentation in the VHF/UHF/SHF and
>>> particularly into microwave as it was with AO40 Mode-S/K and
>>> it was very nice until lasted.
>>> As soon AMSAT-NA will work or cooperate with AMSAT-DL
>>> to built a new HEO satellite I will call Martha and I will pay all
>>> my old duties to cover my previous not covered years of
>>> membership.
>>> By the way I am not against  AMSAT-NA because I understand
>>> the ITAR and during the last 10 years I have cooperate to write
>>> many technical articles for the AMSAT Journal without any
>>> money reward.
>>> If Martha says that the actual AMSAT members are in the order
>>> of 3,000. and if Les Rayburn, N1LF claim to be member of
>>> AMSAT #38965 it means that in the last 10 years many
>>> members abandoned AMSAT because of no future with no
>>> HEO satellites and only the FM LEO cubesat for no two
>>> ways communications between continents was not a
>>> satisfactory task.
>>> Many years ago early in 1972 I joined AMSAT because they
>>> promised us to communicate worlwide much better than using
>>> the HF but things changed and our antennas are becaming
>>> rusty over the roof for very small or for nothing........Sorry !
>>> 73" de i8CVS Domenico

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