[amsat-bb] Re: so long

John Stephensen kd6ozh at comcast.net
Thu Sep 19 19:30:23 PDT 2013

AMSAT-NA abandoned the Eagle project years ago. Only AMSAT-DL has an 
"active" HEO project. with P3E.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael" <Mat_62 at charter.net>
To: <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 21:06 UTC
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: so long

>I said this a couple of weeks back but since reading all the responses in 
>this thread, I think I'll say it again.  I'm almost fifty one years old. I 
>highly doubt that I will ever see an HEO bird launched in my remaining 
>lifetime. The economic realities of this day and time make the possibility 
>of a launch extremely remote and I don't see that changing in the near 
>future.  I can't understand why AMSAT continues to string people along with 
>promises of  "maybe someday if you donate". Why can't they just be upfront 
>about it and tell people,  " Hey it aint going to happen".  There is 
>absolutely nothing wrong with the new direction AMSAT has taken in pursuing 
>cubesat technology and launches, I applaud them for it  but the continued 
>lip service to the  " we want an HEO crowd"  gets old.  I for one am not 
>that gullible. Quit telling people what they want to hear and tell them the 
> 73,
> Michael, W4HIJ
> On 9/17/2013 7:02 PM, i8cvs wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Becker" <w0jab at big-river.net>
>> To: <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:58 PM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] so long
>>> I have decided to leave the list till something changes with this FM
>>> only satellite attitude only changes. That was the reason for me as
>>> well as other joining AMSAT in the first place.
>>> Please inform me if anything such as a replacement for AO 40
>>>   happens.
>>> John
>> Hi John,W0JAB
>> I was AMSAT member numbar 798 since OSCAR-6 but I decided
>> to live my membership after AO40 died because AMSAT changed
>> his policy with only FM satellites.
>> I remember that OSCAR-10,OSCAR13 and AO40 where called
>> "the satellites for all" and I invested a lot of money for equipments
>> and antennas dedicated for HEO satellites for nothing in the near
>> future.
>> In my opinion the satellite operation is not only an activity to collect
>> grids but it is mostly experimentation in the VHF/UHF/SHF and
>> particularly into microwave as it was with AO40 Mode-S/K and
>> it was very nice until lasted.
>> As soon AMSAT-NA will work or cooperate with AMSAT-DL
>> to built a new HEO satellite I will call Martha and I will pay all
>> my old duties to cover my previous not covered years of
>> membership.
>> By the way I am not against  AMSAT-NA because I understand
>> the ITAR and during the last 10 years I have cooperate to write
>> many technical articles for the AMSAT Journal without any
>> money reward.
>> If Martha says that the actual AMSAT members are in the order
>> of 3,000. and if Les Rayburn, N1LF claim to be member of
>> AMSAT #38965 it means that in the last 10 years many
>> members abandoned AMSAT because of no future with no
>> HEO satellites and only the FM LEO cubesat for no two
>> ways communications between continents was not a
>> satisfactory task.
>> Many years ago early in 1972 I joined AMSAT because they
>> promised us to communicate worlwide much better than using
>> the HF but things changed and our antennas are becaming
>> rusty over the roof for very small or for nothing........Sorry !
>> 73" de i8CVS Domenico
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