[amsat-bb] Re: A0 40 replacement

Michael Mat_62 at charter.net
Wed Sep 4 16:26:58 PDT 2013

I don't fault AMSAT one bit for building LEO cubesats. They are facing 
the reality of no HEO launches and there's nothing wrong with that.   We 
have to have something up there or this whole branch of the hobby will 
die. I'm a bit disappointed that they chose to make  Fox-1 yet another 
flying FM repeater and not a linear bird but that's beside the point of 
this discussion.   I just don't think HEO launches are EVER  going to be 
available again and I think telling people "well maybe someday" is just 
false hope.
Michael, W4HIJ

On 9/4/2013 6:09 PM, n0jy wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> I would not say that AMSAT has abandoned HEO.  Rather, launch 
> opportunities that exist now are being utilized.  Would you rather sit 
> dormant and let all existing birds fail or re-enter while waiting for 
> an HEO opportunity?
> And AMSAT is just learning to build cubesats.  For AMSAT-NA, Fox-1 is 
> a first.  If we're going to fly HEO, we had better be good at building 
> a reliable satellite in a cubesat (be it 1, 3, or 6U) format.  The 
> first HEO launch opportunity is not the time to figure that out!
> While HEO launch opportunities do not exist now, but that does not 
> mean that AMSAT isn't pursuing them as Drew pointed out, nor that 
> AMSAT would not build an HEO satellite when opportunities do come. In 
> the meantime, we are making lemonade and preparing through practice.
> Jerry
> N0JY
> On 9/4/2013 4:25 PM, Michael wrote:
>> I'm almost fifty one years old and I'm now convinced that we will not 
>> see another HEO in orbit in my lifetime...if ever.  The economic 
>> environment to do it just doesn't exist anymore. AMSAT has as much as 
>> told everyone that by abandoning their efforts and concentrating on 
>> LEO cubesats. No one is going to come out and say that we absolutely 
>> will never have one, they like to keep that glimmer of hope alive but 
>> the writing is on the wall.   No one wants to be wrong more than I do 
>> but I'd bet you P3-E never flies.
>> 73,
>> Michael, W4HIJ
>> On 9/3/2013 3:32 PM, John Becker wrote:
>>> Anything new on a replacement.
>>> Have not see a thing myself.
>>> John

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