Satgen599 Sat Beginner 2000 by GM4IHJ (BID SGEN599) 2000-09-16 Recent experience with 2 subteen youngsters, has brought home the fact that getting started on amateur satellites is not what it used to be. Finding equipment to start them listening, was not all that difficult. An old FRG7 receiver plus a 2m converter , met one starters requirements. While the second beginner did even better , with an old ICOM Rx which covered both HF, and VHF via a built in converter. Antennas were more difficult. Both houses had modern double glazed PVC framed window units , with no hope of getting permission to drill a feeder hole. So the feeders had to go up through the ceiling into the roof space and out from under the eaves, and thence to simple dipoles. Wired up and powered up, they have been gently introduced to satellite reception from RS13, and the sometimes usable Oscar 10. All of which soon revealed how difficult youngsters find , tuning a dopplering side band signal . Particularly when the overs are short. None the less weekends with plenty of traffic have proved popular. But the lack of weekday signals was a problem until school restarted for the winter term. Extra SSB tuning practice has been obtained on the HF terrestrial bands , and monitoring the very useful NCDX beacons on one band after another, has introduced them to CW with no doppler . But none of this is all that exciting for trendy modern subteen internet afficionados , for whom packet radio seems tame and, who are switched off completely by IHJs 9600 bps UHF satellite reception. With P3D now unlikely to be fully operational before the end of 2001. There appear to be only two other amateur radio space signal sources likely to be available to them in the coming year. Hopefully both MIR and the International Space Station will come on the air with some amateur radio voice traffic which they can copy. This could help them get a better understanding of orbital mechanics. In that they can both learn how to predict satellite arrival times above their horizon , and with the two space stations, actually see them crossing part of their sky as they catch and reflect sunlight over a darkened earth just after local sunset and just before local sunrise. Some time will be spent introducing them to the NOAA and Meteor satellites . Where together with IHJs picture software on their computers they can actually see what the satellite is seeing and match this to their orbital predictions. Beyond that however the future is not bright. P3D is not a beginners satellite , and it is difficult to guess how much longer 9 year old RS13 has left. One day soon RS13 will disappear and there is no sign of a successor, or, a beginner useful mode B LEOsat. Yes there are the 70cm down FM single channel repeaters. But wiring up a 70cm converter so that they can listen to the less than desirable operating tactics one hears on those birds when they are over Europe. Is likely to turn them off for ever.