Satgen 447 Amsat Problems by GM4IHJ (BID SGEN44&) 18 Oct 97 These are indeed traumatic times for Amateur satellite operators. In a remarkably short period of time, more than half of the useful analog satellites have, for one reason or another , ceased to operate. While in addition , there is great uncertainty associated with the now complete, but launch less Phase 3D. It is difficult to see a way out of this black hole. In particular . With no clear launch date in sight for P3D. Amsat is faced with a very costly operation to store and maintain the satellite, at a time when a large overspend has already been incurred in the final period of the P3D building programme. Several important questions , arise immediately :- What is the exact financial position ? How badly hit are Amsat funds, and how far are they mortgaged into the future ? How long is it likely to be before Amsat can contemplate anything beyond P3D?. Assuming a worst case of no P3D launch for years. In the event of a long delay before P3D can be launched. Can any individual units in P3D be utilized in other less complex satellites , which have a greater chance of obtaining a timely launch ? Indeed , is this the end for Amsat of the " all the eggs in one basket approach"? Would it not be better , safer, to plan for future satellites which do not hazard the work , dedication and subscriptions of years, on the fortunes of one big launch? How can we help our Russian friends continue to build their enormously popular satellites? So important to beginners = Amsats future. Colleges etc seem ever ready to launch more and more digital clones. Should Amsat concentrate in future on supplying the analog satellites so many members use, and which are the entry route for newcomers, without whom Amsat has no future. An Oscar 7B would be very welcome It is appreciated that the above poses some very hard questions . Apologies and heartfelt sympathy is offered to all who have worked so hard and subscribed so much to P3D. But life and amateur radio , goes on. Certainly we are likely to be financially restricted for years. So think small , and safety first ,is our only way forward. Noting that aside from the totally unforeseen way in which P3D has stalled, 3 other recent amateur satellite launches have failed, and even the NASA/commercial side is doing no better. With 75 million dollar LEOsat Lewis having recently failed to give even one useful day in orbit. So apologies to all. Attack the messenger if you must. But please lets debate these questions properly. Seen from a European perspective amateur satellite operating numbers have been falling for several years. In the long term we need a balanced program of satellites of proven usefulness, or , we may soon find that from being a sizeable minority in Amateur radio , we have become an endangered species.