Satgen260 Satellite Spotter Part 8 by GM4IHJ 19th March 94 BID of this msg is SGEN260 Please use this BID if you retransmit this msg The time at which you hear a strange signal is a good clue to what it might be. Please write down the time you hear it and how long you hear it for, see Pt4 in sgen255 for details . A Low Earth orbit LEO sat at 1000km altitude will be heard for 15 to 17 minutes if it comes nearly overhead your station. Mir , Space Shuttle and other 400 km altitude orbiters are usually heard for 10 minutes or less. Whereas, the slow moving high altitude elliptical orbiters such as Oscar 13 ,the Russian Molniya and the GPS Navsats may stay in range for 6 hours or more. Once the signal disappears, leave your receiver tuned to the same frequency . If your signal is from a LEO 400 km altitude sat it will have an orbit period of about 94 minutes . So it could be back again 94 + or - 5 minutes after the time you first heard it. It will not be exactly one 94 minute orbit period later because satellites only reappear at the same time over the same latitude. So as a LEO satellite approaches your station horizon each time it comes round it does so at a slightly different latitude and hence a slightly different separation time from the orbit period. Higher latitude crossing of your horizon from previous orbit means slightly later than orbit period. Lower latitude approach means slightly earlier. Typical separation and times might be 1240ut 96 1416ut 94 1550ut 94 1724ut 92 1856ut 90 2026ut, suggesting an average of about 94 minutes. You can confirm this if you hear another orbit the next day at say 1213ut 27 minutes earlier . Which says you had X complete orbits in 1440 - 27 = 15 x 94.2 or 16 x 88.3 or 14 x 101 minutes. Clearly only 15 x 94.2 would fit your previous days orbit separations, which suggests your signal is coming from a satellite at roughly the same orbit height as Mir 400 kms. Please note that a LEO sat cannot stay up for long with an orbit period of less than 89 minutes, and, it has to stay below the radiation belts so it cannot have a period greater than about 125 minutes and have a long life. For further orbit data you can check whether the sat always passes between you and the Equator, and therefore has an orbital inclination less than your station latitude. Or does it pass on the polar side of your station ? indicating a higher inclination than your station latitude. With Americans going left hand (western ) side of north pole and Russian ascending right hand side (east) of the north pole in most cases. For higher orbiters above the radiation belts at say 24000 km or more , you can hear them in range for up to 10 hours or so . So time first heard is of little use in working out orbit period. But the slowly rising doppler shift on their signals is a good clue to this type of sat. Remember LEO sats have fast descending doppler, High Ellipticals have slow rising doppler except as they flash through their perigee low point. Satgen 260 marks the 5th Anniversary of this series of bulletins , which gives GM4IHJ the opportunity to say a very grateful "Thank You" to all those readers everywhere, whose comments and questions have made the last 5 years so interesting and friendly. Very grateful thanks are also extended to the Sysops and the Satellite Gateway Operators who have sent these bulletins around the world each week. 73 de John GM4IHJ @ GB7SAN