Satgen 184 Radar QRM - RSGB Silence by GM4IHJ 3rd October 92 The BID of this message is SGEN184 . DO NOT CHANGE IT IF RETRANSMITTED BID CHANGES CAUSE RECIRCULATION IN GBR OF OLD BULLs. LEAVE BID ALONE 6 months ago Satgen 162 summarised reports of overwhelming QRM around 435.2 MHz wideband affecting terrestrial amateurs and satellite users throughout Europe. One source is clearly in the UK and has the characteristics of a Pave Paws radar (Scientific American Jan 85 refers ). Why it had to appear directly on top of the 500 KHz segment which contained eight operational Amsats which cost amateurs millions to build and launch , many of which had been in space for years, was not explained. So one has to presume either ignorance or contempt on the part of the radar operators.In attempting to get something done two things happened :- 1. GM4IHJ got a second hand message purporting to come from G3AAJ Secretary of Amsat UK saying " WE are dealing with it . Shut Up and give us a chance " 2. G2UK Radio Communication RSGB magazines satellite columist wrote about the problem for RadCom July 92. The notice about Pave Paws interference was passed in the galley proof stage but was censored and removed before publication, with a photograph of the previous years Uo5 launch filling the hole created by the censorship. So there is no doubt RSGB have been fully aware of this problem , but chose to try to hide it from members. Now several months later the situation is going from serious to disasterous. The Oscar 13 controller recently published a request for funds to help rebuild a transceiver badly damaged whilst trying for hours in a last ditch effort to control the satellite. His attempt was defeated by enormous radar QRM . Earlier this week what is probably the next episode in this saga surfaced when Oscar 13's transmitter became unstable and started FMing. Initial reactions included "blame it on high power users". But this is not the complete story. Oscar 13's orbit changes slowly and just now it is hovering for at least 6 hours every day directly overhead UK, where it gets the full blast from this monsterous radar. So that is what is draining its battery and reducing its TX volts below the stable level. On the rest of the satellites the problem is that of reception against a background of massive radar QRM. I have received letters from all over Europe and the Mediterranean ( where there is another of these radars ) complaining of days when satellites downlinking around 435 MHz cannot be received properly. The message for the RSGB is Clear. We ( RSGB included ) have collected millions of pounds to build and launch these sats . Ordinary amateurs have spent hundreds of pounds equiping their stations to use them . Most of us subscribe to RSGB in the hope that they will protect our interest and keep us informed. The time has come for them to crawl out from under the carpet and do something on our behalf , and, tell us what they are doing . We are not as far as I am aware members of a secret society. But this abysmal performance makes me wonder whether RSGB committee think we are. 73 de John GM4IHJ @ GB7SAN DO NOT CHANGE THE BID ON THIS MESSAGE. ITS BID IS SGEN184 .