Satgen84 HOW HIGH IS MIR DOVE MANUAL by GM4IHJ 5th Nov 90 Low altitude Space stations like the Russian MIR, are awkward beasts to track, even if you have a smart computer and, lots of up to date Keplerian elements. The problem arises because atmospheric drag rapidly reduces Mir's height, requiring that it use its engines to alter its orbit at frequent intervals. Orbit height changes of 30 or 40 kms are frequent and worse still are not officially reported. NASA rarely catch up with them until a week or so later, by which time , Mir's orbit timings and your computer predictions can differ by 16 minutes per day times 7 days. Mir's tracking rules predict Mir passing UK 5 times per day with about 96 minutes between each pass. An orbit one day can be followed the next day by an orbit timed between 14 and 40 minutes later, depending on Mir's orbital height. In fact if we know how many minutes later Mir is per day , we can work out its height and its orbit period. Table 1 below works it out for us :- PERIOD MEAN HEIGHT MINS LATER PER DAY REMARKS 90.9 323km 14.4 Rarely below this height 91.1 333 17.6 91.3 343 20.8 91.5 353 24.0 Usual height for Soyuz crew change 91.7 363 27.2 91.9 373 30.4 Regular cruising height 92.1 383 33.6 92.3 393 36.8 92.5 403 40.0 Recent highest height 92.7 413 43.2 Note the time you hear Mir each day. This last week has been 26/0632 and 0804: 27/0709 and 0845: 28/0613 and 0749: 29/0652 : and 31st/0636 and 0813 Shifts of 37, 41, 40, 39, and 40.5 (2day gap 81 minutes). So Mir is near the top of its flight envelope and can be expected to drag down slowly with minutes later per day getting noticably less each week. Mir is presently coming over UK when the Cosmonauts are asleep . So do not expect to hear them again until perhaps Nov 10th or later when their orbit past UK (across SE sky), around 2000 ut should be audible on 143.625 FM. The Dove Manual is now avaible. SASE to 8 Whitehills Saline Fife KY12 9UJ will get you details. 73 de John GM4IHJ @ GB7SAN 5th Nov 90