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I don't totally understand your comments, but let me respond to what I 
think are your concerns.

The ARISS team is working with the PCSAT team and the NASA and Energia 
teams to make the joint testing successful.  No one on the team (ISS Crew, 
PCSAT, ARISS, NASA, Energia, AMSAT, ARRL, etc.) wants to hide this 
information from the amateur community.

Like Bob, I have been burned in the past by SAREX/AMSAT-bb 
crosspostings.  I tried to alert people of an impending ISS EVA, which I 
thought many of the AMSAT members would like to hear about.  This too was 
not posted because of this cross posting philosophy.

I do believe that Paul, in the past, has gotten a lot of complaints about 
crosspostings and that is why he implemented the philosophy that now 
exists.  I think that Paul is doing a great job in keeping a lot of SPAM 
out of the reflectors as well as volunteering his  time to keep these 
reflectors active.  They are a great resource.

My personal opinion is that the no crossposting philosophy, at times, burns 
the amateur community that needs and wants the information. It has burned 
me a couple of times and it has burned Bob.  Personally, I wish that some 
crossposting is appropriate and should be allowed to continue.  But I am 
just one member of the AMSAT community.

Frank Bauer, KA3HDO

Message: 1
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:26:56 +0000
From: "Scott Avery WA6LIE" <wa6lie@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [sarex] Re: Joint ISS/PCsat test final 2 days

Does this mean ISS/SAREX HAMS get dropped out of the loop?

I now NEED to subscribe to amsat-bb to get this information?
Is this NASA?

I am sorry, but I thought all of this was a TEST for ISS and PCSAT, but I
guess it is a test or the human interface....

What is wrong here?
WHY can't we use all of this as a LEARNING TOOL!!!!!
It is beside me why such a SIMPLE TEST can't be somewhat organized.

I am not going to get back on the AMSAT-BB list, because of all the BS.
THIS IS A SAREX project/issue that is appropiate for the board.

Why can't we hack all the BS and put it aside for a bit?

I am trying to explain all this to my kids how we can send multiple space
signals/traffic, but they ask, why can't you adults do it without fighting
or problems.... Hmmmmmm....

Beats the **** out of me.....

I have a BBS too, and it is not moderated... (but reviewed)that is
censorship, and I will not allow that. Let the truth be told.....

It is really unfortunate these posts were not made, as this is an
"experiment" something routine for HAMS.....

73, Scott
CU on ISS/PCSAT?? 145.825 or 145.800 Toss a coin...

From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
 >To: sarex@AMSAT.Org
 >Subject: [sarex] Re: Joint ISS/PCsat test final 2 days
 >Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 23:46:42 -0400 (EDT)
 >The schedule of joint visibility for the final 2 days of the joint
 >ISS/PCsat test was blocked from both the AMSAT and SAREX lists because it
 >was sent to both. Two excellent passes for the western USA were missed.
 >So to prevent cross posting, I wont post on SAREX about the joint
 >ISS/PCsat test.  Any details will only be posted on the AMSAT-BB.
 >The ISS should return to the normal downlink at the conclusion of the test
 >currently scheduled for 28 Oct.
 >de WB4APR

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