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Re: ISS VOICE 08/29/2002 - a bit of QRM

Call this:  "Bill's Tulsa Experience."  

Thirty-two fears ago this September Sharon and I were married.  For our honeymoon we drove from Brooklyn N.Y. to California then back again via a different route, covering as many states as we could.  Anyhow, one afternoon we are about 30 miles West of Tulsa which was a planned overnight stop.  I casually asked my new bride what she wanted for dinner.  She repplied: "Chinese food if possible."

Well, I had my trustu Regency HR-2 FM radio under the dash of the '69 Galixy and -- as I recall -- back then the only two 'repeater pairs" were 146.34/.94 and 146.34/.76  (this was before 600 khz standardization).  

I "kerchunked" on one of the two.  Heard a repeater carrier reply.  So, I announced:  "This is WA2HVK mobile West of Tulsa Oklahoma looking for a good Chinese resteraunt."

In almost an instant, a voivce rang forth (whose name and call sign I cannot recall) advisig me that there was indeed one -- and only one such eatery in Tulsa.  The ham then spent the next 40 minutes guiding us into town and over to it."

But the story does not end there.  We went inside, were seated by an elderly gentleman with a very distince "Lower East Side of Manhattan NY" accent.  I casually asked him if he was from NYC.  He replied that he grew up on Veesey Street, that his name was Saul Rosenberg and that he owned the resteraut.  

Anyhow, you could have knocked me over with a feather!  As he explained in the 2+ hours we were there, his daughter had married someone from Tulsa and moved there.  Not wanting to be away from his daughter and grand-kids he movd there as well.  

I asked him why he opened a Chinese eatery.  His reply that I recall to this day -- a very typical NYC reply:  "Why not?"

Anyhow, fast forward about 25 years to when I was a banquet speaker at the Tulsa Hamfest.  On the Sunday morning that I was leaving to return to Los Angeles, I asked my driver from the radio club if he knew the resteraunt I described above.  He did and we stopped by there around noon.  The name had changed (several times as I learned speaking with the current manager) and nobody remembered Saul Rosenberg.  

Anyhow, I took a few photos and we headed to Tulsa airport trying to outrun an approachiong thunderstorm.  I beat it to the terminal by less than a minute.  When I got home I got the film developed at a "One Hour Photo" and surprised 'da bride' with a picture from our past.  

The ham radio connection:  If not for ham radio we probably would never found the lone Chinese resteraunt in Tulsa (in that era) much less met a neat gentleman from our hometown who had moved West to open it.  

And less I forget:  When Mr. Rosenberg heard that we were on our honeymoon -- dinner was his treat.

A great ham rafio memory....

Bill Pasternak, Wa6ITF 

In a message dated Thu, 29 Aug 2002 7:49:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Harry M" <harrymue@gbronline.com> writes:

>> I got my license in Tulsa in 1959. I was born there.
>>Louis W. McFadin
>>U.S. Hardware Manager
>Hi Lou,
>If you haven't been back to Tulsa in a while, things continue to change and
>I moved here in 1972 from north east Ohio to attend Spartan School of
>73 Harry
>Hi Paul,
>I heard Valery again a few passes ago. Packet was on for most of the pass
>then he got on the mic.
>>      He sure has been on voice quite a bit this past week or so.  I agree
>> with all your comments, Harry.  After listening to nothing but packet for
>> months, we've got a crew member (actually the Commander) who seems to love
>> handing out QSOs to anyone he can hear.
>Valery has always been a real HAM. He loves to use the radio. I wish more of
>the crew members were as active as he is. In one QSO with him back when he
>was the MIR Commander I could almost hear him tell Russian mission control
>to shut up. They were calling him on the MIR vhf radio and they were
>interupting his QSO with me. I still laugh when I play that tape. Here is a
>link to my Spaceport site... http://www.gbronline.com/harrymue/spaceport/  I
>haven't updated it in long time so some of the links may not work. If you
>click on "I Talked to Space Men" I have 3 QSO's you can listen to. I will
>add todays, but I must pay for more web space first.
>>      I heard him this AM commenting that there was either a repeater or a
>> simplex conversation on his RX frequency (144.490 MHz), and it was making
>> it difficult to hear.  Being new to extra-terrestrial use of 2 meters, I
>> checked the 2-meter ARRL band plan, and that segment is not supposed to be
>> used for simples or repeaters.  I believe Valery was in QSO with WF1F when
>> he discussed this, and I missed about 20% of it because someone was
>> blasting packets off the ISS while he was talking.  I guess some stations
>> are configured so they can't hear the audio, and assumed there would be no
>> voice activity.
>There are those pkt stations that are unattended and if configured correctly
>will only xmt on pkt when they hear RS0ISS beacon. If ISS sent a pkt beacon,
>then they started to use voice it is possible that the pkt beacon "woke up"
>a few unattended stations. Some stations are setup to beacon at a fixed rate
>all the time which can cause a problem. Also, there are those who use
>frequencies that are not in the plan and just use a supposedly unused one. I
>heard someone locally transmitting just a carrier this afternoon on 145.800.
>It sounded like they were swinging a beam around. Don't know what that was
>all about.
>>My understanding is there are two radios on board, and if one is left
>> on packet, folks can inadvertently key up the packet side of things in the
>> middle of a voice QSO.  Anyhow, these are all growing pains as we learn to
>> use the ISS Ham facilities properly, and I must say it is a pleasant
>> surprise to hear a voice on many passes.  This will only get better as
>> goes by, and hopefully the next crew will be just as enthusiastic.
>I'm not sure about there being 2 radios on board. I know that they used to
>forget to turn the pkt off on the MIR and it would xmt on top of the voice.
>As soon as they realized it they would turn the pkt off and carry on with
>I looked your call up on QRZ and enjoyed your web site very much. Nice job
>on the boat you built. I too love the water and enjoy sailing. haven't done
>any in several years though. Here is a link to our adventure last year you
>might enjoy... http://www.gbronline.com/harrymue/vac2001/   We went back and
>hiked again this year, but I have 578 pictures and no web space for them.
>Harry - KC5TRB
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