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Re: SAREX-digest V2002 #151


Yes,  there are over 800 messages on the ISS BBS.

The ARISS team (not NASA) have discouraged the use of the BBS because of 
the bandwidth required to use it.  The BBS is a one person at a time 
operation, not too efficient when you have hundreds of hams looking over 
your shoulder watching you send your message while they are waiting for 
their turn.  Given the  fact that messages can be more efficiently sent 
using unproto, we are encouraging the use of this method over the BBS.

So, is the BBS open for business?  It has always been there but the ARISS 
and APRS teams have discouraged their use.

73,  Frank

At 12:02 AM 7/1/02 -0700, you wrote:

>SAREX-digest          Monday, July 1 2002          Volume 2002 : Number 151
>In this issue:
>     RE: [sarex] ISS BBS open for business?
>Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:09:24 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Bruce - KB6LWN <kb6lwn@hfradio.org>
>Subject: RE: [sarex] ISS BBS open for business?
>Looks like I got my wish, Edwards was used :)  Neat!
>On the current subject;  WOW!!!  Over 800 pieces of traffic!
>I've said it before and I may say it again (brain fade),
>if the ISS is going to be used as a 'maildrop' in the sky
>then perhaps there needs to be some form on NOS (JNOS, MF
>NOS, TNOS, etc) that will pass traffic using one of the
>low level fully-automated machine protocols like SMTP,
>NNTP, pop3, etc...
>I'm sure there are reasons some can come up with that
>this WON'T work, but I'm not convinced!!!  I believe
>that just as some folks are 'afraid' of computers in
>general - there are packeteers that are 'afraid' of
>TCP/IP and believe AX.25 to be the ONLY way to go.
>In this I disagree, whole heartedly. (can you guess ;)
>What with the evolution and institution of ELKS and
>BlueCat Embedded Firmware Linux in the satellite world
>it seems like one of the only logical paths to explore.
>Heck!  Even Palm-Pilots r running Embedded Linux nowdays :)
>I know weight and stowage space is a large concern, but
>much less so than it was aboard MIR or STS, and with the
>advent and ease that deliveries are being made to 'the
>station', it doesn't seem impossible to transport a very
>small 'cube' containing a MB and associated HW loaded
>with Linux OS in it's EPROM to serve this purpose, along
>with an additional TNC - perhaps even integral to the cube.
>Why!  Even the tranceiver could be integrated into the one
>small cube (or whatever) as the power levels don't seem to
>necessarily be that high on xmit from there-to-here...
>Surely with the size of HT's today, someone in the Ham
>community has the ability to design a 2m, 220, or 70cm
>FM transceiver on a half or 1/3size daughter card that
>can put out 5w ?!
>I would imagine this would be seperate from the current
>TNC and xcvr and would operate independantly to handle
>those that wish to use ISS as a 'highlevel popserver',
>leaving the current hardware available for incidental traffic
>and live operator usage (school contacts, Amateur Voice, APRS)
>and general recreation for the 'hams' on board.  Maybe even
>send some photos home (or to the Amateur Community) via one
>of the stations with a longer passwindow.
>And since I've seen some commenting re: "space" being a
>seperate domain, why not 'make it so', by assigning a
>Class-A network IP to it (like ampr.org uses 44.#.#.#).
>There it is!  A storm in da brain that HAD to be let out :)
>Thanks for the bandwidth...  'Scuze any rambling...
>flames > /dev/null  (Please)
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>On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Cap Pennell wrote:
> > Has everybody followed the _current_ rules?  hi hi  What have we got, 857
> > (or so) messages on the PMS so far, when there are supposed to be NONE?
> > I just wish the "power-PMS-users" (read: LIDs) would only occupy the entire
> > pass every once in a long while, instead of on _every_ pass.  But I suppose
> > it's a lost cause to think they'll ever consider anybody but themselves.  I
> > sometimes wonder how someone can function with that much vanity.
> >
> > > I monitored today as VO1CAT received a personal message from
> > > Valery on the ISS packet BBS.  So can we now get NASA's official
> > > blessing to use the PMS?  Or are there going to be other "rules"
> > > established concerning its use?
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