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Re: ISS voice over USA

Hello Paul.

I understand your point but I would add this.

The folks on the space station are not really "hams" in the sense that in a 
certian mode of operation they value the number of contacts above a "good 
rag chew".  ( as an aside I bet most of them dont even know the term).

I've talked to some of them before they went up (I live in Clear Lake City 
Tx) and after they came down.  Most of them who use the radio a lot view it 
as sort of an escape mode from being in three tin cans and if they find a 
conversation that they "like" they usually stay in it.

I've had full pass QSO's where I knew that others were calling them (and so 
did they) but they were interested in what was going on "here"...the little 
things that they dont get from the NASA folks.

The most humrous one I have had is one guy who was aloft lives in my 
subdivision and he got a notice from the community association that his 
house had a problem.  I am the trustee for this subdivision and so we had a 
sort of funny chat about that.

I dont know what happened in your specific episode but Susan Helms was an 
exception.  She ran contacts like she was a vetern DXer...

Most of them dont like that sort of QSL.


>From: Paul M Dunphy <pdunphy@accesswave.ca>
>To: Brent Taylor <btaylor@nbnet.nb.ca>, sarex@AMSAT.Org
>Subject: Re: [sarex] ISS voice over USA
>Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 13:39:34 -0300
>At 09:58 AM 23/06/2002 -0300, Brent Taylor wrote:
>>We tried valiantly from our field day site to work Valery, but his time
>>was, in my opinion, monopolized for practically the entire 1850 pass.  The
>>contacts were not "short" and he was "worked too much" to the extent that
>>he repeatedly worked one station over the throng of others that were
>>undoubtedly trying to get the contact and the credit.
>>We were operating battery and emergency generated power, I am guessing 
>>the station working him on that pass was "one-delta" with no intention of
>>submitting a Field Day score report.
>>I did not copy the entire call of the station he was working.  My fellow
>>operators were disappointed and a little incredulous that, during Field 
>>itself, the hottest catch of the day was being drawn into a ragchew.
>>The EXACT same thing happened to Susan Helms during Field Day 2001 - an
>>entire pass consumed with a Field Day exchange lesson - even though any
>>valid 2-way QSO with Susan could have been used for credit by any ground
>>station whether she knew if she was 1B, 1D or whatever.
>>That ragchew probably took 10 or more stations out of an opportunity for a
>>Thanks again.
>>Brent, VE1JH
>     Well, Brent, that's the way it is supposed to be, and that is the way 
>it was years ago.  There was this thing called the Amateur's Code:
>     Most of us learned this from watching others operate, and through 
>incentive styled licensing, where you had very restrictive privileges that 
>were incrementally increased as you gained experience.  Then came the 
>instant gratification generation, combined with governments easing up on 
>the requirements to get a Ham ticket.  Banks of questions from previous 
>Amateur exams showed up for sale, the CW requirement was lowered and is 
>almost gone now, and people can go from nothing to a full bore license in a 
>week. (One day in the US.)
>     Combine this with high powered, sophisticated stations and the "win at 
>any cost" mentality of DXers and contesters driven by the ARRL and CQ 
>Magazine's awards programs, and it isn't all robins and roses and "after 
>you, pal."  I wish it was, but it isn't.  The guys you mentioned didn't 
>care about Field Day.  They didn't care about you.  All they care about is 
>a contact with something they want so they can get a postcard to prove it.  
>Then they send it in to some organization to get a point on an awards 
>program.  Like the DXCC or VUCC awards.  The ISS QSL card is a great 
>bragging symbol, and is worth far more than the feeling "I stood by and let 
>the Field Day guys make a contact."  These fellows never read or understood 
>the Amateurs Code, and they never will.
>     Someday when the novelty of working the ISS has worn off, I might call 
>them.  But for now, it isn't possible for me . . . just as it wasn't 
>possible for your Field Day operation to get through.
>     Don't take this the wrong way.  I'm not condoning what goes on.  I'm 
>putting it in perspective.  If you want to blame anyone, look to the ARRL, 
>RAC, the RSGB and any other organisation that petitioned their licensing 
>authorities in their respective countries to lower the standards for 
>becoming an Amateur.  They did this to bolster sagging membership due to 
>the advent of the Internet.
>73, Paul VE1DX
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