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Re: ISS Unproto Destination Address

I think Maggie hit the nail right on the head!

Although, this might be hard for some to comprehend, it is actually very
simple and easy to do.

APRS style transmissions formatted correctly, can contain all the
information that everyone wants to see.

One can use APRS style transmissions MANUALLY, as Bob (WB4APR) suggested, or
use the APRS software which allows HUMAN unproto mode!

Some may have seen my transmissions via ISS, and it is an automated tracking
station. It displays ISS's position on your monitor if using APRS. Yes
sometimes I, the HUMAN, is around and I do send around some hello's.

Yes, it would be nice to see on www.ariss.net where the data uplink came
from. It would be useful in determining the coverage from that particular

Hope to see you via ISS!

73, Scott WA6LIE

----- Original Message -----
From: "Margaret Leber" <maggie@voicenet.com>
To: "Brent Taylor" <btaylor@nbnet.nb.ca>; <sarex@AMSAT.Org>
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [sarex] ISS Unproto Destination Address

On Sunday 23 September 2001 13:23, Brent Taylor wrote in "[sarex] ISS
Unproto Destination Address":
> Reading the posts, I guess it boils down to two scenarios:
> 1. How do you want your packet to appear to APRS
> or
> 2. How do you want your packet to appear to a human being

I think that's a very artificial dichotomy. How about *one* scenario: a
format standardized enough that it can be processed automatically
(including with APRS), *and* be understandable as raw data by a live op
as well? There's nothing about APRS formatting that makes it unsuitable
for live QSOs; in fact live QSOs are architechted into the protocol.

After all, AX.25 packet radio is a digital protocol inherently intended
for use with other layers in the stack, and APRS formats actually *are*
used by live humans.

> Actually, hitting the ISS with a packet solely to see an APRS capture
> may be close to "broadcasting"...

Hmmm. Somewhat less so than a CQ in any mode, and just as much so as a
HSCW meteor-scatter transmission. Given that the intended recipients of
such a transmission are APRSgates listening on the ISS downlink, I
think calling such operation "broadcasting" is really reaching.
Ariss.net is a convenient way to summarize reception reports from a
wide variety of earth stations that have access to the Internet as a

It would be nice if we could see which gates recieved a particular
packet, though.

73 de Maggie K3XS

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