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Re: ISS Ham Radio Operations??

I want to thank Bill,Bruce and Miles
for the very informative emails!

My husband has told me about all of this, but I guess I didn't believe him.

Some of it made no sense to me.

Miles made a good point of one of my questions, and that is if automatic
operations such as packet and SSTV can be run all the time with out crew
involvement, why can't they keep them on? (except during docking etc.)

Now, I would guess it is because it is still new and all the bugs are not
worked out yet.

I will look forward to some day talking and or operating the ISS once I pass
the test!

We will be patient and see what holds in the future.

My son's science teacher has already asked my husband to talk to his class
and demonstrate HAM RADIO to the kids with the ISS as he did the same in
the past with MIR.

He told the teacher that he couldn't do it until schedules could be made or
if packet
or SSTV was active to demonstrate. He said not to hold his breath but maybe
in a year
it might be possible. That was 6 months ago.

Ham Radio is a great tool and adventure!

Thanks again!


----- Original Message -----
From: "M" <wf1f@mediaone.net>
To: "Mary" <ladym555@hotmail.com>
Cc: <sarex@AMSAT.Org>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [sarex] ISS Ham Radio Operations??

Hi Mary:

Ill try to answer some of your key questions.

> 1. Is there going to be a dedicated HAM station aboard ISS?

Amateur Radio is an education tool and it will also be used
by the crew in their free time for entertainment
and family/friend and public random conversations.
However, free time is very limited.
As i have been told at a few Space Agency meetings,
"there is no such thing as free time".
There will be a licensed Amateur Radio operator on every planned crew
All members of the crew can use the equipment.

> 2. Is it going to be ON all the time? (see below)
During the first year, the activity will be random.
Its like building a big house.  You are very busy the first
year unpacking and hanging the drapes.  Eventually you do get more
free time.
The Mir crew members learned that Amateur Radio was very important for
long duration Missions.  And many of the crew members used the Amateur
radio station Daily.  We will have to see how much time the crew gets
with ISS for voice activities.
Fortunately we have two unattended projects planed for ISS.
1) Packet Email.  People will be able to send short message to ISS.
and use Chat Room to type to other stations within 1500 miles.
Chat Room is currently being used on ISS part time as the crew
fine tunes some of the settings.

2) Slow Scan TV
SSTV is tentatively planed for a flight possibly this year 2001.
There are many details that need to be finalized.
If SSTV is activated, it will be able to transmit 720 images per day
from iss.
Anyone with a simple zero dbd antenna will be able to decode a few of
images per day.  And, if you do not have any radio equipment, then you
just look on the web and see what images other stations have decoded.

The unmanned projects do not require very much crew time and we are
for the equipment to be active for long periods of time.

More projects are being reviewed next month at the ARISS meeting in
We have 5 antenna ports which we can Share access with on ISS.
We have the antennas.  We just need good funded projects.

> 3. If the answer to question 2 is NO, How can we keep the kids INTERESTED?
There will be days and sometimes weeks when due to crew work load and
power, etc.
we may need to turn off the amateur experiments for a period of time.
Shuttle and Soyuze dockings/undockings will usually require shutdowns.

> 4. Will there be APRS "School Days" like there was on MIR?
MAREX ran a few Cosmonaut days on Mir, when the Mir crew was scheduled
to be on a frequency during specific times to talk to the public.
The schedules with Mir were very successful.
We are working on trying theses again in the future with ISS.

But we must remember, the crew time is very valuable,
they have a large amout of work to do in space.

It reminds me of a current fictional TV show about the
president of the USA.  All day long people are asking the president
for "JUST 5 MINUTES OF YOUR TIME".   One days worth of 5 minute
requests added up to a full week.

good luck and keep listening, today i talked to Susan on ISS.

Quote from Russian Cosomonaut Sergej Serebrouv Mir 1995
"A school schedule is only 10 minutes long, ill make time"




Mary wrote:
> Hello all,
> I have a few questions that some of you experts with NASA
> or ARISS might be able to answer.
> I am currently studying for my Amateur Radio License and have
> 2 kids that are somewhat interested in the hobby.
> My daughter Katy (11) is very interested in the sciences and enjoys
> watching the discovery channel very often.
> She is a sponge for knowledge but also needs something interactive
> to keep her interested.
> My husband is a HAM and has been one for 25 years or so.
> He was very active with the MIR Space Station packet, and had
> talked many times to the crew aboard. This sparked my INTEREST that
> there is more to the hobby. We have even viewed MIR and ISS in the skies
> after sunset and were amazed that we could see them with the naked eye!
> Here is the question(s).
> 1. Is there going to be a dedicated HAM station aboard ISS?
> 2. Is it going to be ON all the time? (see below)
> 3. If the answer to question 2 is NO, How can we keep the kids INTERESTED?
> 4. Will there be APRS "School Days" like there was on MIR?
> The reason why all these questions is because I really want to learn about
> this stuff and my daughter Katy does too!
> When my husband gets us all together in front of the radio and computer
> to "demonstrate" the radio operations from space via APRS, it has ALWAYS
> been a bust! That is, ISS radio isn't on or working. This leads a bad
> example
> to all those eager to LEARN. My kids now think it is a joke we are playing
> on them and have lost interest.
> I realize that there are other satellites we can use for demos etc, but it
> is
> NOT the same thing as talking or using the ISS that has human life
> My daughter can relate to someone she can talk to or interact with.
> She thinks seeing all the stations via ISS appear on the APRS monitor is
> cool!  (Ariss.net) My son thinks we are full of crap because he hears or
> sees NOTHING on ISS passes in our area.
> Can anyone please help?
> My husband says that the HAMS have NO control of what happens on ISS.
> NASA seems to say when and if anything happens.
> Space Camp is a great way to get kids interested in Space.
> Ham Radio is a door opener to get these kids off the streets and
> interested in the sciences, and can be done in the classroom!
> (Antenna,Scanner/Handheld & computer/TNC)
> Thank You in advance!
> Mary
> PS. If Ham Radio will not be ON all the time on ISS, does any other
> have future plans for such a service to help educate our kids?
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