-----Original Message----- From: Ray Webber [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 10:09 AM I also love watching satellites, and Mir is about the best, I guess due to its size. The regular ones I see are the Hubble telescope, Mir, GRO, and UARS. Then the shuttles, when their orbits co-incide with the visable periods at my location. I find that the best times to see them are between about 45 minutes after sunset and about 2 hours after sunset. Then again in the mornings, between 2 hours and 45 minutes before sunrise. You mentioned 22h14 zulu. What local time is that at your place? I did check the pass times of the shuttle and Mir during the current mission, but they did not co-incide with visable passes over here in Pretoria, South Africa. 73 Ray -----Original Message----- From: owner-sarex@AMSAT.org [mailto:owner-sarex@AMSAT.org]On Behalf Of Francisco Costa Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 2:11 AM To: sarex@AMSAT.org Subject: Outstandig View Hi Shuttle/MIR fans I was monitoring MIR packet PMS (between 2214-2224z) when an idea crossed my mind: check if MIR was visible! And it was! There it was, the tiny dot moving so fast, so smooth. I was so absorved by that I didn't pay attention to the other dot behind. In a fraction of second I knew what it was: the shuttle! What an outstanding view!!! It was so exciting as when I saw MIR the 1st time!!! I tracked both for a minute and then, when the were about to reach maximum elevation, they fade in the dark... WOW, what a night! 73 F.Costa, CT1EAT P.S. Sorry, I know it's a bit out topic, but I had to share this with you. At least I know you understand what I'm feeling. Thanks!