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> From: Jose Mihotek <jmihotek@gte.net>
> To: Frank H. Bauer <frank.bauer@gsfc.nasa.gov>
> Subject: Re: Miles Mann and SSTV
> Date: Thursday, June 04, 1998 9:46 PM
> From: Jose Mihotek KF4VND <jmihotek@gte.net>
> To:Frank Bauer , Roy Neal ,sarex@amsat.org
> Subject: Miles Mann and SSTV
> Date: Thursday, June 04, 1998 7:12 PM
> In response to your worries about the future of Amateur Radio in Space,
> based on the way you present your case, I think they are unfounded.
>  As a practicing Satellite Radio Amateur that I am, I think that if Mr.
> Miles Mann has the hardware  for his SSTV Experiment ready to fly, you
> everybody else should be helping him instead of getting in the way.
> Why should I, and everybody else, have to wait for your SSTV experiment
> another space-craft that has not even been launched ?
> I would love to experience SSTV as soon as possible through MIR and  then
> when you have your experiment ready on the ISS as well.
> I don't know Mr. Mann, but have read his Mir SSTV Esperiment letter that
> posted on this BBS, and he presents his case much more accurately than
> He proposes frequencies, explains the pros and cons of each option,
> with knoledge of the existing hardware aboard Mir, and more importantly,
> ready to fly on the next launch to Mir. 
> Mr. Mann strikes me as a doer.
> I dont see how his SSTV Experiment would jeopardize your experiment
> the FUTURE    International Space Station. Perhaps you care to elaborate
> that point in a response to this BBS.
> Why dont you and your team concentrate on  your experiment, and if you
> want to co-operate with Mr. Mann, at least get out of the way and  let
> fly his experiment so that I, along with all the rest of Ham Radio
> Operators in the world have the oportunity to practice for when you are
> finally ready we can better enjoy your experiment aboard ISS.
> I dont think that your position is in the best interest of the Ham Radio
> Operators. I think you are trying to play politics. It seems to me that
> this has become a personal issue between against Mr.Mann. 
> I am not interested in the reasons why Mr .Mann is no longer with MIREX.
> Maybe he got tired of the politics  and stones you put in front of him
> he quit. I don't care. All I care is that if HIS experiment is ready to
> and YOUR'S is not, his experiment SHOULD FLY FIRST.  This matter should
> treated on a first come, first serve basis.
> I don't see anything wrong with Mr. Mann's personal goals, they seem to
> in the best interest of HAM Radio.  Perhaps you care to share with us
> your personal goals regarding Amateur Radio are.
> If AMSAT backs you on this effort to make all Hams wait for you, until
> are ready to fly, it will not be acting in the best interest of all the
> Amateur Radio Operators.
> If that is the case, I think Mr. Mann should be talking to the russians
> directly. After all, they are the owners of MIR and I am sure they will
> give him all the trouble you're causing.
> I say again: 
> It is in the best interest of Amateur Radio in Space to support Mr. Mann
> this particular effort to make SSTV through MIR availiable to all Ham
> Operators at the present time. This has nothing to do with ISS because
> is in the future. 
> Regarding your statement that MIR has only another year of life, who are
> you to say ? You are not the owner and have no right to decide that. It
> in the best interest of the World-wide Scientific Communnity to keep MIR
> flying forever.  I'd like to remind you that it has been re-orbited once
> already and could very well be re-orbited once again if need be.
> There is nothing wrong with Mr. Mann acting as an individual  trying to
> make SSTV availiable to us. And let me tell you, he is not alone. He has
> support and I'm sure the support of all Ham Operators that want to enjoy
> SSTV from space this year.
>  If we were to conduct a poll on how many support this immediate
> possibility as opposed to waiting for your experiment in the future,
> sense tells us that the support is behind  the immediate possibility. We 
> always have the future ahead of us and it is always uncertain.
> I hope this leter is food for thought and many Hams speak up in support
> Mr. Mann's efforts to give us SSTV from space.
>  I think you and your group have some soul-searching to do regarding your
> efforts to hinder the progress of Amateur Radio. You seem to have missed
> the spirit of this wonderful Hobby.
> Best regards,
> Jose Mihotek
> jmihotek@gte.net
> ----------
> > From: Frank H. Bauer <frank.bauer@gsfc.nasa.gov>
> > To: ariss-i@garc.gsfc.nasa.gov; ariss-hw@garc.gsfc.nasa.gov;
> ariss-admin@garc.gsfc.nasa.gov; sarex@AMSAT.org
> > Subject: Miles Mann and SSTV
> > Date: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 10:38 PM
> > 
> > 
> > The SAREX Working Group and MIREX have discussed some of the problems
> > being created by Miles Mann.  We would like to share our concerns with
> you.
> > 
> > Miles Mann is no longer associated with MIREX.  He is acting as an
> > individual and we believe his insistence in trying to promote a SSTV
> > experiment on MIR at this time represents a threat to the future of
> > Amateur Radio on the International Space Station.  The International
> > Space Station Phase 1 office also shares that opinion.  
> > 
> > Mr. Mann was separated from MIREX for good cause, and his departure was

> > announced publicly. He has refused to accept Dr. Dave Larsen's (and
> > position on Mir and ISS hardware development.
> > 
> > Miles Mann has embarked on a plan to put his own SSTV experiment on
> > Using equipment that was on loan to MIREX, he has tried to get United
> States
> > suppliers and NASA contractors to use official channels to ship his
> > hardware.  They refused.
> > 
> > When amateurs from eight nations met in Houston in 1996 to establish
> > ARISS,they all agreed that there would be one master station to
> > service amateur radio on the International Space Station.
> > 
> > They also agreed that the ARISS team would implement that master
> > This was requested by NASA management in  the International Space
> > Program
> > Office and the representatives from the eight member nations signed a
> > Memorandum Of Understanding to that effect.  Miles knows this; he was
> > present at that meeting at our invitation.  He has proceded on his own,
> as an
> > individual, because existant teams found him too difficult to work
> > 
> > SAREX and AMSAT have tried (unsuccessfully) to work with Mann on
> > numerous occasions but he has insisted on pursuing his own goals. He
> > consistently demonstrated complete disrespect for fellow amateur radio
> > operators, alienating many of them, including some of the astronauts
> > cosmonauts in the process. At one point recently, he even demanded that
> he
> > personally be considered as a signatory to the MOU agreement.
> > 
> > He has also shown an utter disregard for bandplans and wants to use
> > frequencies that are in direct conflict with other amateur radio
> activity.
> > His comments and actions regarding space frequencies have caused a
> deal
> > of controversy within the U.S. and throughout the world.
> > 
> > Whatever his reasons, we suggest that he not be allowed to go ahead
> > his SSTV project at this time. The United States team is working with
> > ARISS international partners to formulate a final design of the
> > station hardware for the ISS.  This unified design will be developed at
> > meeting which is planned to be held in Surrey, England, during the last
> week
> > in July.  The United States team will present the plans that were
> > negotiated with the Space Station Officials to fly the transportable
> > permanent amateur radio stations on the ISS.  We also hope to discuss
> > outstanding progress our Russian colleagues have accomplished to
> incorporate
> > amateur radio antenna feedthroughs on the ISS.
> > 
> > These matters and our future on the International Space Station are
> > best discussed at that time.  We have approval from NASA for Amateur
> > Radio on the International Space Station; an approval that requires a
> unified
> > team approach, something that Miles Mann refuses to accept.
> > the U.S. proposal to the International Space Station plan has always
> > included SSTV and a 2 meter capability.  Frank Bauer and Matt Bordelon
> > initially presented this at the ARISS meeting in Houston and at the
> > symposium in November 1996.  You are all welcome to see some of the
> various
> > ARISS proposals at the ARISS web site:
> > 
> > http://garc.gsfc.nasa.gov/~ariss/drafts.html
> > 
> > In all the ISS developments we will be using new, advanced technology,
> > including advanced SSTV equipment.
> > 
> > The life expectancy of Mir is short, a year at best.  The life
> > expectancy of the International Space Station promises a long and
> > future.  So we ask for your understanding of the inherent danger in the
> Mann
> > scheme and its potential danger to the amateur radio station
> on
> > ISS.
> > 
> > The SAREX Working Group asks for your patience to allow
> > sufficient time to determine a proper course for Amateur Radio aboard
> > International Space Station, including slow scan TV.
> > 
> > Signed
> > 
> > Roy Neal, K6DUE
> > Chairman SAREX Working Group
> >