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Re: IARU representation in European Union



Dear Domenico, I8CVS



This is a very important and present topic.



In general, concerning the representation of IARU, in the present situation 
of European Union, IARU to stand for nothing; concerning the democratic 
Constitution of each European country this politic of IARU is to take the 
wrong way.



Is urgent for the future of the Amateur Radio Service and Amateur Satellite 
Service change the old concept of «only one» national society, in fact, this 
only one societies represents a minority (5 to 25%) of a sportive class 
interested only in sport, not in science and technology, when at least, more 
and more amateur radio work outside in other thematic, national, regional 
and local associations and organizations when in fact develop the HAM's near 
the citizens and the youngsters, inside the schools and universities, this 
is the reality in Portugal.



In my personal point of view, this is a question of interest in QSL service.



Unfortunately IARU and the Amateur Radio all over the world continue to lose 
progress and prestige.



In the Portuguese case, since 1980 the national society represents only 10 
to 12% of all practising of Amateur Radio Service, all the other citizens 
and amateur radio works in other regional and local organizations. That in 
reality develops (in local and regional organizations) a very important 
public service with the local populations and authorities.



The solution is create a National Federations integrated in one 
International Confederation like the old and prestigious IARU, focus in XXI 
century and the new challenges for the education, science and technology 
developments, public service for all mankind, and at least the sportive 
interests.



Is one dramatic situation (unconstitutional and illegal) when a «national 
society» from IARU refuses other national and regional or local 
associations, clubs, groups, NGO, leagues or societies to make part of the 
worldwide interests of the culture of science and technology via the open 
spirit of the HAM's all over the world. In fact, this is the present 
situation of the Portuguese representative IARU society.



In conclusion, in the Portuguese case more then 85% of the amateur radio 
citizens not sharing and not contribute to the interests of Amateur Radio 
via the IARU.



To change this dramatic and unconstitutional and illegal situation in 
Portugal, in 2001 I try to transform the national society in one national 
federation or confederation, open to all other national, regional and local 
HAM associations or societies.



In the Portuguese case, any interested in participate to the IARU 
contribution and payment to receive QSL, have one solution: go to Spain, to 
URE (and open a Spanish delegation in Portugal ...), or go to France, to 
REF-Union, or to RSGB in England, DARC in Germany, inside the European Union 
now the problem is only the language, not the border-lines.



With my kind regards (I apology for the English),



Mariano Goncalves, CT1XI



Past president (1998 to 2001) of REP the Portuguese member of IARU

President of the board of AMRAD (NGO) and AMSAT-CT



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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@tin.it>
To: "AMRAD" <amrad@sapo.pt>; "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IARU representation in European Union


> To all over the world
>
> The main problem here are points 4 and 6
>
>> 4. Because in European Union and other freedom countries there are radio
>> amateurs who are members of other organizations, in general, the present
>> IARU «national societies» represents only a minority between 10 to 35% of
>> all this national amateur radio cultural movements actives in each
>> country.
>
>> 6. IARU in the future to promote and defend all the interests of radio
>> amateurs throughout the world at international telecommunications
>> conferences it is necessary for the IARU to speak on behalf of all
>> worldwide radio amateurs, needs change the Constitution, to include
>>  non the old concept of «national society» but the new national
>> federations or confederations, democratic representatives of large
>> associative national movements of amateur radios
>
>
> Comment to reinforce point 4 and 6 :
>
> The National Communication Authority of this country do not recognise
> the IARU-Region 1 to be the only Society representing worldwide all
> radioamateurs and consequently in Italy the amateur national organization
> ARI in spite of to be the only IARU member Society of this country when
> sitting on round tables with the National Communication Authority has
> the same power and the same rights of all the other small national
> organizations non members of IARU not recognising IARU but sitting
> around the same round table of the National Communications Autority
> during official meeting.
>
> Consequently the National Communication Authority of this country
> cannot oblige all national radio amateur organizations to follow by law
> the IARU band Plan and this creates a lot of problems in sharing the
> Amateur Services and the Amateur Satellite Services particularly into the
> VHF/UHF/SHF
>
> It follows that in the XXI century the IARU needs to modernize their rules
> and Constitution and the old resolution 93-3.
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
> Past ARI Vicepresident representing ARI for C commission during the
> Region-1 Conference Lillehammer Norway 1999
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "AMRAD" <amrad@sapo.pt>
> To: <amsat-bb@amsat.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:58 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] IARU representation in European Union
>
>
> Point of view concerning effective representation of radio amateurs
>
> all over the world,
>
>
>
> In the XXI century the IARU needs to modernize their rules and 
> Constitution
> and the old resolution 93-3.
>
>
>
> Noting:
>
>
>
> 1. The constitutional obligation of all IARU member Societies is represent
> adequately the interests of radio amateurs throughout their country and
> autonomous or separate territory.
>
>
>
> 2. Is an imperative for the XXI century, the modernization of this concept
> of «national society» and change to other Constitution of national
> federations or national confederations, to include all the national,
> regional and local associations, NGO, leagues, groups, gangs or clubs.
>
>
>
> 3. That in some democratic countries, like in European Union, the National
> Constitution of each state assumes the non-obligation to participate in
> associative movements and the freedom of choice to affiliate in any
> national, regional or local association. In freedom countries there are
> radio amateurs who are members of other national associations and
> non-governmental and non-lucrative organizations that works for education
> and development of science and technology trough the Amateur Service and
> Amateur Satellite Service, with other goals non-sportive like the DX and
> contests on short-wave bands.
>
>
>
> 4. Because in European Union and other freedom countries there are radio
> amateurs who are members of other organizations, in general, the present
> IARU «national societies» represents only a minority between 10 to 35% of
> all this national amateur radio cultural movements actives in each 
> country.
>
>
>
> 5. IARU in Region 1 is to be missing representation and financial 
> resources
> since 1980.
>
>
>
> 6. IARU in the future to promote and defend all the interests of radio
> amateurs throughout the world at international telecommunications
> conferences it is necessary for the IARU to speak on behalf of all 
> worldwide
> radio amateurs, needs change the Constitution, to include non the old
> concept of «national society» but the new national federations or
> confederations, democratic representatives of large associative national
> movements of amateur radios.
>
>
>
> 7. Because is very important to the future of education and development, 
> of
> culture of science and technological trough the Amateur Radio and Amateur
> Satellite Service have in all the World a common voice speaking on behalf 
> of
> radio amateurs to each administration.
>
>
>
> Conclusions:
>
>
>
> Since the old IARU resolution number 93 from 1993 (at 15 years ago) in
> European Union and all over the world, the «national societies» of IARU 
> not
> draw the attention of the regional and local organizations to the fact 
> that
> for member Societies to meet their constitutional obligations (and rights)
> they should pass to such other national organizations and entities all the
> adequate information and duty of participation as to the actions of the
> IARU, and encourage such of this national and local organizations to 
> respond
> to them in respect of worldwide Amateur Radio and IARU matters, for this
> motive of exclusion, imposed by the «national societies» all the regional
> and local associations to come short from the IARU, not contribute in 
> equal
> duty and obligations to the development of the Amateur Radio and Amateur
> Satellite Service.
>
>
>
> IARU needs are integrated inside the others national, regional and local
> organizations to take such action in respect thereof as is appropriate and
> an important step for the freedom and democracy.
>
>
>
> A point of view, by AMRAD (AMSAT-CT)
>
> www.amrad.pt
>
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