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Re: Good ideas for the AO-7 log.



could the editing job be done by a volunteer group, to spread out the work?
Might also a log be generated and stored tracking all edits, in case of a 
questionable action?

Auke
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Hackett" <archie.hackett@hotmail.com>
To: "Alan" <ve4yz@mts.net>
Cc: <amsat-bb@amsat.org>; "Eu-amsat@yahoogroups.com" 
<eu-amsat@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:12 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Good ideas for the AO-7 log.


>
> Alan,
>        A timely and intelligent mail - nice! one.
>
> I played at super dooper pooper scooper - (log cop) - for a couple of 
> years but it was as you correctly percieved taking up too much of my time.
>
> I wused to be Emily's page administrator but since she disappeared into 
> the burrow of 2nd Life and despite "millions" of 'carrots' - (read: 
> e-mails) - I've lost contact with her.
>
> I do wish she'd pop her head out with a quick - "What's up Doc?".
>
> I'm now involved in other aspects of the Grand Old Lady ... AO-7, not 
> N1DID.
>
> 73 John.   <la2qaa@amsat.org>
> .............................................................................................
>
>> From: ve4yz@mts.net
>> To: la2qaa@amsat.org; sv1bsx@yahoo.gr
>> CC: amsat-bb@amsat.org; eu-amsat@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb]  More AO-7 log.
>> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:01:17 -0600
>>
>> Regrettably, there seems to be only a few ways of "Ham - Proofing " the
>> logging system.
>>
>> One would be to add some logic to the code for the form entry to prevent
>> submitting unless at least one of the QSO entries are completed.  This 
>> may
>> require diving into the rabbit hole to rescue Emily from her Second Life 
>> and
>> nicely asking her to tweak the code.  However, it would not prevent 
>> entrants
>> from adding dummy info just to get a count.
>>
>> Another would be having a super user act as "log-cop" and zap bad 
>> entries.
>> That may be perceived as badly as a "grammar cop" or "spelling cop" on 
>> this
>> BB, and, who would want to waste that amount of time each day cleaning up
>> other's messes. But it could be mitigated if a warning line was added to 
>> the
>> top of the table.  "Invalid entries and empty QSOs will be deleted"
>>
>> Another that comes to mind would probably involve Emily and may actually 
>> be
>> the easiest.  The entire database could be conditioned occasionally. 
>> Again
>> a super user could execute a single line SQL statement that purges all
>> entries where the QSO is blank or includes text such as "CQ".  DELETE 
>> FROM
>> table_name WHERE column_name = some_value. I'm ignorant of the db used 
>> here
>> but hesitantly *assume* in might me MySQL or something similar.
>>
>> The SQL statement could even be automated in a chron process and executed
>> automatically each day.
>>
>> Or, folks could just use common sense and read the second sentence at the
>> top of the log - "IF YOU HAVE A CONTACT TO REPORT...."   Oh, we already
>> tried that and it didn't work...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On
>> Behalf Of John Hackett
>> Sent: March 4, 2008 2:17 AM
>> To: sv1bsx@yahoo.gr
>> Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org; Eu-amsat@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] More AO-7 log.
>>
>>
>> Mak,
>>        Despite our repeated requests ... yesterday ...
>>
>> W7AIT 15:49
>> W7AIT 15:50 ... (seperate QSO's)
>> PY4AJ CQ
>> VK4ZQ CQ
>>
>> Like I mentioned ... don't these people 'look' at what they write? ... or
>> note how those that fill in the log correctly do it? ... or even read the
>> Amsat mail?.
>>
>> What can one do?.
>>
>> Statistics are no use to man nor beast if they're incorrect - and over 
>> the
>> first 3 months of this year there are enough errors to ensure that the
>> statistics *ARE* wrong ... agreed, they're only small mistakes and agreed
>> that - "it's only a hobby" - but what is the point in filling in the log 
>> in
>> the first place if you're not going to do it correctly?.
>>
>> Having pointed out the errors once, twice and three times on both 
>> bulletin
>> boards in the last 14 days I assumed that ought to be enough - obviously 
>> it
>> wasn't ... so I don't know about you but I'm not going to bother anymore.
>>
>> Since the main "contenders" are English speaking one cannot blame the
>> language. The panes are clear enough and cannot be misconscrued. The hour
>> glass is self explanitory - you yourself have explained more than once 
>> how
>> to fix things if they do occasionally go amok - (data is "data") - I'm
>> referring to the - 'remember me' - checkbox issue.
>>
>> It's a pity such a useful resource is allowed to become a mess.
>>
>> EOR ... (End of rant).
>>
>> 73 John.   <la2qaa@amsat.org>
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