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Re: FW: Oh - my - God - (AO-7 uplink power).




Hi Bob,
          Believe me !!!, it was not my intention to come across as a "wet blanket" ... I bet you chaps have a better phrase ... ******* limey! ... he he he ... 

Obviously, you're well aware of the AO-7 situation but there are several stations that arn't and my intention was to make people aware of it.

If I have offended in any way, I sincerely apologise Bob.

This mail is CC'd to the Amsatr-bb - mine get there, since I'm rersponsible for it.

73 John.   <la2qaa@amsat.org>
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From: w7lrd@comcast.net
To: la2qaa@hotmail.com; eu-amsat@yahoogroups.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb]  FW: Oh - my - God - (AO-7 uplink power).
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 06:49:44 +0000


 
 

 
 
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From: w7lrd@comcast.net 


John/etc
To requalify- This is my capability!  I use only the exciter IC-451 1-8W.  I am acutely aware of the sensitivity  of AO-7.  However when attempting work footprint edge to footprint edge, I did run some power momentarily to find my down link.  Yes John I have read all the available information regarding the history and operation of AO-7. John, I trust you will take the liberty to CC this email to the EU AMSAT reflector, their mail bounces back.  I should have reread my initial post to the bb, as the context is not correct.  My apologies to all for the justifyable outrage this  has caused.  I conscientiously make every effort to follow all the rules written and unwritten.  I will look into the wet shoestring concept.
 
--
73 Bob W7LRD 
AMSAT member 28498 
Seattle
 
 
-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: john hackett <la2qaa@hotmail.com> 

> 
> For those that don't understand power budgets on satellites - especially ailing 
> ones - *PLEASE* make the effort to read up on the subject - so you can honestly 
> say "your" operating *DIDN'T* shorten a particular satellites life ... or ... 
> you were *NOT* being an alligator ... (all mouth and no ears) ... and using more 
> than your fair share of the available power. 
> 
> Remember ... there are potentially many !! users on AO-7 and the available power 
> is distributed among them ... a LINEAR transponder isd *NOT* like an FM 
> transponder. 
> 
> There is an excuse for simply "not knowing" - but there is no !! excuse for 
> knowing and ignoring the facts - that's just plain anti-social. 
> 
> If
 you're not aware of it, do please !!! take the time to read up on the 
> subject. 
> 
> 73 John 
> 
> From: la2qaa@hotmail.com 
> To: w7lrd@comcast.net 
> CC: eu-amsat@yahoogroups.com; allan_gm1sxx@hotmail.com 
> Subject: Oh - my - God - (AO-7 uplink power). 
> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:41:04 +0100 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Oh - my - God!, 
> 
> >On 70cm I run about 80-100 watts to a 40 el cp 
> >yagi. I can pick up my down link when the sat 
> >is about 7 degrees. 
> 
> 73 Bob W7LRD That's not an AO-7 station Bob, it's an EME station. 
> 
> Did you not read the recommended operating proceedure for AO-7 
> 
> 
> 
> 5 watts or less to a decent aerial is adequate. Personally, I have *NEVER* used 
> more than 5 watts to a homebrew 6 
element yagi but this gave me 3rd place 
> worldwide - (currently 5th) - when I was more active. 
> 
> I have taken the liberty of CC'ing part of your mail to the EU amsat reflector 
> because like me - they won't believe! the power you're using ... 100 watts to 40 
> elements is several kilowatts !! EIRP. 
> 
> I would respectfully suggest you do some research about *WHY* one should 
> maintain a reasonable power budget when operating satellites ... afterwards - 
> (hopefully) - you'll see what I mean. 
> 
> AO-7 is not in the best of health at at the best of times but hitting it with so 
> much uplink power is most certainly not going to prolong it's life. 
> 
> It is also thoroughly recommended to use a "receiver" with an aerial attached - 
> though with your uplink power - (if it's true) - 
> a wet shoelace ought to suffice. 
> 
> NB. 
> 
> You did say 40 elem
 ents ... did you mean 4 ???. 
> 
> 73 John. 
> ................................................................................ 
> ...... 
> 
> > From: w7lrd@comcast.net 
> > To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org 
> > Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 03:58:29 +0000 
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] antenna attenuation 
> > 
> > Hello 
> > Has anyone encountered this situation- My satellite antennas are about 15 
> feet off the ground. approximatly 18 feet away at that height is the base of a 
> 25 foot tripod that holds my HF quad. When aiming at a certain direction about 
> 15-20 degrees I can't seem to get through to AO-7. I am trying to connect with 
> OH8MBN. Other directions I can usually hear my downlink almost down to the 
> horizon. On 70cm I run about 80-100 watts to a 40 el cp yagi. I can pick up my 
> down link when the sat is about 7 degrees. 
> > 73
 Bob W7LRD 
> > Seattle 
> > 
> > -- 
> > "if this were easy, everyone would be doing it" 
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