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Re: Can D-Star work on VO-52?



In the next 10 years or so we can expect All Amateur voice communications to
switch to Digital in preference to SSB or FM. It will be as traumatic a shift
as the move from AM to SSB was back in the early 60's.

I don't expect that any of the different Digital Voice systems currently in
iuse will be the ones eventually adopted for HF and VHF/UHF - rate of
techonological progress can be rapid in this field.  But whichever format
eventually dominates there will be significant challenges for satellite
operation.

When newcomers try out the satellites for the first time they don't use fully
computerised doppler correcting set-ups, they compensate for doppler by hand.

Now the existing satellites modes - CW, SSB, FM are all relatively "frequency
insensitive" - you can be offtuned by 300 Hz on a CW signal and a human
operator will still be able to copy it just fine. SSB is the most critical of
the three, but even that can still produce understandable audio even with a 150
Hz+ frequency offset. 

All existing Amateur Digital Voice modes are very frequency sensitive, you need
to stay within 50 Hz of the correct frequency to decode them and this would be
problematic for a LEO sat where the operator is tuning manually. 

What we need is a Digital Voice mode that occupies a bandwidth of less than 2.5
kHz, can be decoded with very low S/N ratios (<15 dB) and can tolerate tuning
offsets of at least 150 Hz - a tall order but not impossible.

Satellite users need to give some thought to this because unless there is
Amateur Satellite Community input to the development of Amateur Digital Voice
we could end up with the situation where none of the commercially available
Amateur Digital rigs (that's all they'll be in 10 years time) can use LEO
Amateur Satellites ! 

73 Trevor M5AKA

--- Dave hartzell <hartzell@gmail.com> wrote:

> Interesting idea...
> 
> Doppler tracking might also be an issue....do these radios support
> incremental VFO adjustment via computer control?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Dave
> NøTGD
> 
> On 2/23/07, Patrick Green <pagreen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> >   I'm wondering if the GMSK modulation scheme in D-Star can be inverted and
> > whether the Icom 91AD dualband HT can work full duplex for satellite work.
> > D-Star uses a 6.25kc channel which is way better than the 15kc needed for
> > standard FM but not as friendly as SSB and CW.  Let me know.  I haven't
> > purchased this equipment but it's worth at least a debate.
> >
> > 73 de Pat --- KA9SCF.
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