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Re: Member's Only AMSAT.ORG - Update

The question is will all of the AmSat organisations share their membership
records some day? I know, there are "Data Protection" issues to be
considered in each country apart from the major headache of supplying the
information in a standard (XML?) format and keeping it synchronised.

73 de

Félim M3HIM
ARRL 2000250645
RSGB 184119
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Emily Clarke" <emily@planetemily.com>
To: "Félim Doyle M3HIM" <Felim.M3HIM@ntlworld.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Member's Only AMSAT.ORG - Update

Hi Felim,

At this time that would be correct since we would
not have any means of verifying the membership of someone outside of



At 02:18 AM 7/3/2006, you wrote:
>Will the Members Only section be restricted to AMSAT-NA members? I'm
>assuming they are the only ones you would have in your database for
>validation purposes anyway.
>Félim M3HIM
>AMSAT-UK 6464
>ARRL 2000250645
>RSGB 184119
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Emily Clarke" <emily@planetemily.com>
>To: "Kevin Schuchmann" <wa6fwf@amsat.org>; <amsat-bb@amsat.org>
>Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 1:16 AM
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Member's Only AMSAT.ORG - Update
> > It's probably a good idea to update the membership on why a member's
> > only sub-site of AMSAT.org is not in place. I am not going to
> > apologize for this - but things have been proceeding.  It's actually
> > part of my presentation at the Symposium, so I won't go into too much
> > detail.  So if you are attending the Symposium or purchase the
> > Proceedings afterwards you will learn more about what is coming.
> >
> > A big reason for the delay isn't laziness or lack of effort - it
> > begins with the reality that there were other priorities.  These
> > priorities included building the AMSAT Store, building systems for
> > tracking volunteer in-kind hours, giving field operations an area
> > coordinators space, writing other software tools such as the pass
> > prediction and tracking model, building and populating the Satellite
> > Database, giving presentations, supporting AMSAT at two Dayton
> > Hamventions, organizing this year's Space Symposium and as you all
> > know I designed and deployed EaglePedia in this time frame.  FYI -
> > making EaglePedia "member's only" was part of the discussion, but
> > that brought us back to why there isn't a member's only sub-site in
> > the first place.  And EaglePedia couldn't wait.
> >
> > The biggest reason was that there was no way to validate members.
> >
> > Although I wrote quite a bit of the code to support a members-only
> > website two years ago just after the website makeover was launched,
> > when it got to the point to interface it to the AMSAT membership
> > system to validate memberships there was no way it could happen.  The
> > current membership database is a DOS application that could not
> > connect to the primary site.
> >
> > So in addition to all of the other tasks I've been doing, I have also
> > been quietly working behind the scenes to resolve the validation
> > problem.  On and off for the past 16 months I have been designing,
> > coding, testing, migrating data and deploying a new AMSAT volunteer
> > and donor management system called AIMS (AMSAT Information Management
> > System.)  AIMS is in beta test and I am going to DC in August to
> > finish up interfacing AIMS to the office printers, migrating the last
> > of the data and training the staff.  In addition to an extensible
> > member support system AIMS will be able to validate memberships so
> > that the store can appropriately apply discounts (Martha currently
> > has to do this manually) and the member's only feature can validate a
> > member who logs on.
> >
> > When AIMS goes online we still can't completely support a member's
> > only sub-site. In addition to content issues (again - we need
> > volunteers) there is an initial startup security issue we will have
> > resolve.  We can't just let members sign up because too many people
> > publish their AMSAT membership numbers and other personal data is
> > available in other public systems like QRZ.  The alternative is to
> > mail out a temporary password (like Log of the World did.)  Most
> > likely the LOTW approach will be used - I'll have to write code so
> > that members can signup online, and AIMS will send a temporary
> > password via snail mail to the member's mailing address of
> > record.  That way someone can't "hijack" someone else's account.
> >
> > Just a final note - the member's only section will not be called Area
> > 51.  It will be called "My AMSAT" and will be rolled in as part of a
> > redesign of the website.  You can see a screenshot of what I've been
> > working on here (shown partially localized into Afrikaans by Hans
> > Groenendaal.):
> > http://www.planetemily.com/amsat2007.gif
> >
> > It is still in the early stages, but in addition to member's only
> > content (again, if someone produces it) you will be able to customize
> > the user interface, customize the navigation language to something
> > other than English, and keep other preferences including custom
> > satellite pass alerts. There are many other features we could add
> > however I'm sure these will be a source of discussion at the next
> > Board meeting.  Part of that discussion will likely include moving
> > some existing website features over to the member's only section.
> >
> > But the biggest issue will always be content, and as Ken pointed out
> > in his post, we need volunteers.  So volunteer!
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Emily
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 04:48 AM 7/2/2006, Kevin Schuchmann wrote:
> > >http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/members/
> > >
> > >My My how time flies!!!  2 years old Today! I remember when the members
> > >only page first appeared, My what high hopes We had for it! maybe a
> > >PDF archive
> > >of past Journals, maybe a first peek at some eagle info, or something
>else to
> > >add value to the  membership...
> > >
> > >But like many other things there it sits getting old...   lets just
> > >hope something
> > >actually appears in it one day before its old enough to vote!
> > >
> > >LOL
> > >Kevin WA6FWF
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