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Re: Towards a true international AMSAT



Thank you, Jim.  I agree with everything you wrote.  Luc Leblanc has been a 
"Troll" on the AMSAT BBS spreading discontent and mis-information for way 
too long.

73,

Woody
KJ4SO

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Reicher, James" <JReicher@hrblock.com>
To: "Luc Leblanc VE2DWE" <luclebla@sorel-tracy.qc.ca>; <amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 3:41 PM
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Towards a true international AMSAT


> Listen, you blithering idiot, first of all, you chose to make public a
> reply that I had sent privately to you.  Therefore, I am making public
> my own opinions, without your censorship.
>
> The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation, also known as AMSAT, is a
> US-based corporation.  It can be no other, under the laws by which it
> was incorporated and under which it operates.  If you can tell me under
> what international government a group can be "internationally
> incorporated", I'll support that move.  Under the laws that govern this
> organization, those of the United States of America, it is possible to
> have a group that has non-US members and even non-US officers.  The
> "AMSAT-NA" that you refer to is a shorthand abbreviation that is used to
> easily identify the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation.  Other
> identifiers are used to identify societies in other countries, but only
> for ease of determining the countries in which they operate.
>
> Nowhere in the Bylaws or Articles of Incorporation does it say that the
> Corporation represents the interests of any country or continent.
>
> Nowhere in the Bylaws or Articles of Incorporation does it say that
> there is any limit on who can be a member.  Too bad.  There could be an
> intelligence test that certainly would screen out idiots like you.
>
> It IS stated in the Articles that one of the purposes is "Fostering
> international goodwill and cooperation through joint experimentation and
> study, and through the wide participation in these activities on a
> noncommercial basis by radio amateurs of the world."
>
> Seeing as you've done what you could to create discontent and hinder any
> goodwill in the great majority of e-mails I've seen from you, it is MY
> opinion that you should be booted out of AMSAT. I do not claim to speak
> for any one else, although I'm sure many people agree with me.
>
> If you want to start an "AMSAT-CA" or whatever you choose to use an
> identifier, you're more than welcome, although I can't imagine anyone
> being of such low intelligence or self-esteem that they would agree to
> be associated with any group that you started.
>
> 73 de N8AU, Jim in Raymore, MO
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-AMSAT-BB@amsat.org [mailto:owner-AMSAT-BB@amsat.org] On
> Behalf Of Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:53 PM
> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Towards a true international AMSAT
>
> On 31 Oct 2005 at 10:27, Reicher, James wrote:
>
>> Seeing as how AMSAT-NA "is organized exclusively for scientific
>> purposes, including, for such purposes, the making of distributions to
>> organizations that qualify as exempt organizations under section
>> 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1954" "pursuant to the
>> District of Columbia Non-profit Corporation Act" (quotes are from the
>> Articles of Incorporation), you are completely erroneous in your
>> assumption that AMSAT-NA is an international organization.  It is a US
>> corporation, whose members include people and/or societies in other
>> countries.
>
> I'm aware of that and that's why in accord with the article 3 of AMSAT
> Bylaws and by the actual minding of the actual BOD they feel that are
> representing Canada Mexico and US
> interest and even more AMSAT-NA this NA is for North America. If AMSAT
> is not representing North America as an international entity i will
> recommend BOD to change this name
> for AMSAT-US!
>
> If AMSAT opens his membership internationnaly in his Bylaws it makes
> sense they want to represent international interest!
> see below.
>
>
> ARTICLE III - "MEMBERSHIP, DUES AND PRIVILEGES OF MEMBERSHIP"
>
> Section 1
>
> Membership shall be open internationally to any person or group
> indicating an interest in supporting the purposes, objectives and
> activities of the Corporation. An applicant
> for membership shall complete an application form and membership shall
> become effective upon receipt of membership dues.
> Section 2
>
> Thank's for your inputs and as " A US corporation, whose members include
> people and/or societies in other countries." that's what i am suggesting
> an amendment to the bylaws
> to reflect this international inclusion in the scope of AMSAT-NA and not
> AMSAT-US who is irrelevant as per the actual BOD mindings. We should not
> forget also AMSAT
> relationship with ARISS and the International space station who is
> funded here in North-America by Canada and the United States. The
> international membership acceptance
> included in AMSAT bylaws make it an evidence and a logical and a normal
> course of action to follow.
>
>
> Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
> AMSAT 33583
> www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
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