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Re: Newbie question...How important is 1.2 GHZ coverage?

Hi Guys,

Been busy this weekend so slow in replying on this one.

One thing you should realize about buying a radio with the 1.2 GHz module
enclosed in the cabinet is that you will need super low-loss cable to get
very much of the Tx power up to the antenna.  Above 432-MHz most mw'ers opt
to place their gear up near the antenna to get around the high cost of
hardline.  I would suggest you might consider buying a xvtr which can be
remotely located near your antenna.  The problem is most xvtrs are designed
either for 1268 or 1296 and do not operate over both frequencies.  Also
there are not many 1268 xvtrs (or tx converters) on the market right now.

So if you decide on the Kenwood  with internal 1.2 GHz module, plan on
adding a power amp up at the antenna.  You can get plenty power to drive a
15w PA using RG-213 and 10w output from the kenwood.  Downeast Microwave
makes an assortment of 1.2 GHz PA's that will work both frequencies fine.

Sidenote:  I am using the FT-847 with a DEMI 1268/144 Tx conv. with 15w
output (not available anymore).  I am using two 45-ele. loop-yagis for
1268-1300 MHz.  Also have a 60w 1.2 GHz PA for when you need it :-)  I am
running this up 7/8-inch hardline and still get less than 50% up at the

73's Ed - KL7UW

At 11:11 PM 8/14/2005 -0700, Greg D. wrote:
>I second Joe's opinion.  I have one of those module-less 736's, and at times 
>wish I had acted earlier to get it upgraded, but the $550 (list) cost 
>stopped me.  Now, even if I had the money, you can't find one.  But, as Joe 
>points out, the lack of a 1.2 module hasn't stopped me from enjoying nearly 
>every satellite and mode.  If you're considering not getting something else 
>that will make your station work really well on the bands it has, spend your 
>money there first.  Then go after the 1.2.
>Greg  KO6TH
>     1.2 GHz equipment is quite rare and difficult to find.  I went
>searching for anything that would work 1269 MHz at Dayton this year and
>found one piece of used equipment (an FM handheld).  I still regret not
>buying it, and when I went back it was gone.  The only currently available
>1.2 GHz equipment I am aware are the modules for the IC-910 and the TS-2000.
>If you follow the newsgroups and eBay there simply is not any used 1.2 GHz
>gear available.  The exception is an occasional FM radio from Japan on eBay.
>Having the 1.2 GHz module will at least double the resale value of most
>radios that had one for an option.  Having said all of this, I have been a
>ham for about 20 years and been quite active on satellite for 18 and have
>never used any 1269 gear.
>     I believe the TS-2000 is probably a fine radio, but you may want to
>investigate whether or not it is real usable on several satellites due to
>birdies in the 435 Mhz receive.  If I were buying the TS-2000 I would want
>to know that for sure.  Then I would buy it with 1.2 GHz just to help
>protect my investment.  As many FT-736, IC-970, TS-790 owners can tell you,
>do NOT count on the module being available later.  When the production is
>done the modules will vanish.  If I were buying a radio just to have HF with
>a satellite radio (and not worried about 1269 MHz) I would look long and
>hard at the FT-847 and spend the money saved on antennas.
>Just My Opinion,
>Joe kk0sd
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael Tondee" <sky_dancer@direcway.com>
>To: "Amsat BB" <amsat-bb@amsat.org>
>Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 11:26 AM
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Newbie question...How important is 1.2 GHZ coverage?
>>Hi everyone,
>>  I am new to satellites and I've been doing a lot of research as well as
>listening to Echo passes and tracking them. It appears good fortune has
>smiled upon me and I'm going to be able to purchase a Kenwood TS-2000 in the
>near future. I'm debating whether I need to go ahead and get one with a
>1.2ghz module installed or not. I'm wondering how important it will be to me
>in the future.  My budget is limited and whether or not I spend the extra
>money will affect other decisions I have to make in regard to equipment for
>my station. On the other hand, I'm worried about discovering I really need
>the 1.2 gig coverage a year or two down the road and having to buy the unit
>and send it and the rig off to Kenwood to have it installed. Any thoughts?
>>Tnx and 73,
>>Michael, W4HIJ
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Ed - KL7UW  
144-MHz EME - BP40iq:
FT-847, mgf-1801/1402, 4xM2-xpol-20, 170w
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