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Re: ISS for Field Day

What confusion?  I wasn't talking about scoring, I was talking about the fact
that the ARRL's refusal to adopt AMSAT's 1 QSO per FM satellite rule actually
CONTRIBUTES to the interference that occurs on the FM birds on Field Day,
making it much more difficult to make even that FIRST QSO, let alone any
additional ones..........  it's just like in economics:  lower the price, sell
more units, make more profit.  If you let everyone try as many times as they
want to, you'll actually have FEWER successful contacts, due to interference.
Limit FM satellite users to 1 QSO per FM bird, and you'll have more SUCCESSFUL
Q's, not less!    That is precisely the rationale behind AMSAT's 1 Q per FM
satellite rule.

The ARRL just doesn't get it:  it's not about the number of points, it's about
a policy that promotes SUCCESS versus one that actually leads to failure.
Here's Dan Henderson's reply to my request to implement such a rule:

Hi George:

Thanks for your comments.

This has been discussed in the past and was not adopted.  Limiting it to one
QSO kills the incentive for many groups to even attempt trying, just as your
point that allowing it kills groups from trying since they can't be
successful.  Unfortunately either way there are groups that will be unhappy.

By the way, they do not receive additional bonus points after the first QSO.
Any addition QSOs count only for QSO points.  You don't get additional bonus
points for QSOs on additional satellites.


Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager

 -----Original Message-----
 From: George Henry [mailto:ka3hsw@earthlink.net]
 Sent: Sat 5/7/2005 6:37 PM
 To: contests
 Subject: Field Day Satellite rules

 AMSAT's Field Day rules restrict a station to ONE QSO per FM satellite, due
 to the tremendous overload & interference that occurs (See
 www.amsat.org/amsat-new/awards/amsatfd.php).  I think that ARRL's Field Day
 rules should do the same.  This way, those stations only wishing to get the
 100 point satellite QSO bonus would have a better chance, while those
 willing to put in the effort for additional QSO points could do so on the
 linear transponder birds (AO-7, FO-29, and now, HAMSAT) where there is ample
 bandwidth for everyone.

 George Henry, KA3HSW
 ARRL Member


----- Original Message -----
  From: Grant Mitchell
  To: George Henry ; amsat bb
  Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 7:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS for Field Day

  Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS for Field Day

  > What's REALLY a shame is that the ARRL refuses to adopt a 1 QSO per pass
  > even 1 QSO per FM sat rule for Field Day.....  they actually ENCOURAGE the
  > type of operation that makes those birds practically useless FD weekend!
  > George, KA3HSW

  There seems to be some confusion about this so I will try to clarify.

  ALL satellite QSO's (including ISS) count for QSO point credit depending on
your entry classification.
  A dedicated satellite station does NOT add to your station total.
  You can only get the SATELITE BONUS of 100 points once......1 QSO
  The ISS is not earth-satellite-earth so would not count toward the SATELITE

  My suggestions:

  Try to work as many stations, on as many satellites as you can (no dupes!).
Try to work our guys on the ISS (it will be busy).....it will add to your
score and it's also a nice QSL card.  Work any ONE of the other satellites for
the 100 SATELLITE BONUS points......1 QSO.  Now sit back and work as many as
you can on all the satellites and increase your score and have fun.  I'll try
to be on most (no s band ) CW, SSB, FM and hope to work many of you.  FD call
will be N4BP.

  Below is a copy of the satellite bonus Field Day rules.

  7.3.7. Satellite QSO: 100 bonus points for successfully completing at least
one QSO via an amateur radio satellite during the Field Day period. Under the
"General Rules for All ARRL Contests" (Rule 3.7.2.), the no-repeater QSO
stipulation is waived for satellite QSOs. Groups are allowed one dedicated
satellite transmitter station without increasing their entry category.
Satellite QSOs also count for regular QSO credit. Show them listed separately
on the summary sheet as a separate "band." You do not receive an additional
bonus for contacting different satellites, though the additional QSOs may be
counted for QSO credit. The QSO must be Earth-Satellite-Earth in nature.
Available to Classes A, B, and F.

  73 and good luck to all,
  Grant, N4GM
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