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RE: RE: Hamsat now VO-52



Roger,

I just reported what is shown on the Web sites and e-mails I have received.
I expect there has been a split or a realignment of some sort.  I really
don't know.

Rick
W2GPS
AMSAT LM2232

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Kolakowski [mailto:rogerkola@aol.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 12:06 PM
To: Rick Hambly (W2GPS); 'William Leijenaar'
Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org; ve3frh@amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RE: Hamsat now VO-52

Almost clear Rick...

Is Amsat India the same as AMSAT-IN or does VU2NUD belong to opposing
organizations as listed below? I am always confused because I get email from
both...

Thanks for keeping us up on it...

Roger
WA1KAT

>India has long had a recognized national >organization, AMSAT INDIA, whose
recognized
>representative is Nagesh Upadhyaya VU2NUD.

>at least two
> groups are challenging the authority of the recognized AMSAT INDIA
organization:
>
> 1) AMSAT-IN in New Delhi headed by Sri K.V. Prasad, VU2ROC and including
VU2IIS,
> VU2IIS, VU2NUD, VU2RM, VU2IAB, VU2NCS, VU2RRG, VU2RCA.
>
> 2) A group of Hams from the Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO)
headed by Air
> Cmde Suby VU2UV, and including VU2RMS, VU2POP, VU3SXE, VU2WMY, VU2BGS,
VU2ITI,
> VU2MKP, VU3TYG, VU3HCJ, VU2GDX, VU2GUR, VU2MGD, and VU2GGM. This is the
group that
> wants VO-52 renamed HO-52.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Hambly (W2GPS)" <w2gps@cnssys.com>
To: "'William Leijenaar'" <pe1rah@yahoo.com>
Cc: <amsat-bb@amsat.org>; <ve3frh@amsat.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 9:31 AM
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] RE: Hamsat now VO-52


> William,
>
> I will try to explain the situation as best I can. I apologize in advance
for any
> errors as I only have a limited understanding of the situation in India at
the
> moment.
>
> It has always been AMSAT's policy to recognize only one AMSAT affiliate
organization
> in each country.  To be recognized as an affiliate an organization must
pass certain
> tests.  Typically, such an organization would be.....
> 1) Not for Profit, non Governmental.
> 2) Comprise mainly Amateur Radio personnel
> 3) Have been involved in the development and launching of a national
satellite, if
> applicable and have the capabilities of controlling the satellite and
future Amateur
> Radio Satellites built in the country.
> 5) Represent the majority of the country's Amateur Satellite Users
> 6) Be open to all of the country's Nationals with an interest in Amateur
Satellite
> Technology
> 7) Accept membership from previous and current national organizations with
similar
> objectives.
>
> India has long had a recognized national organization, AMSAT INDIA, whose
recognized
> representative is Nagesh Upadhyaya VU2NUD.  This is the person who
registered
> "VUSat/Hamsat" on 04-July-2005 with International Amateur Radio Union
(IARU) - see
> http://www.amsat.org.uk/iaru/finished.asp. This is also the person who
registered the
> name VUSat-OSCAR-52 (VO-52) with AMSAT in accordance with the instructions
given at
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/information/faqs/numbers.php. This is all
in
> accordance with AMSAT and IARU policy and no one complained until later.
>
> From AMSAT's point of view everything went smoothly but within India there
is
> conflict. No other person or organization has made official contact with
the IARU or
> applied for a name through the OSCAR Numbers Policy
> (http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/information/faqs/numbers.php). However, at
least two
> groups are challenging the authority of the recognized AMSAT INDIA
organization:
>
> 1) AMSAT-IN in New Delhi headed by Sri K.V. Prasad, VU2ROC and including
VU2IIS,
> VU2IIS, VU2NUD, VU2RM, VU2IAB, VU2NCS, VU2RRG, VU2RCA.
>
> 2) A group of Hams from the Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO)
headed by Air
> Cmde Suby VU2UV, and including VU2RMS, VU2POP, VU3SXE, VU2WMY, VU2BGS,
VU2ITI,
> VU2MKP, VU3TYG, VU3HCJ, VU2GDX, VU2GUR, VU2MGD, and VU2GGM. This is the
group that
> wants VO-52 renamed HO-52.
>
> AMSAT's Vice President of International Affairs and Immediate Past
President, Robin
> Haighton VE3FRH, is actively working on a solution to this problem and
questions
> relating to these issues should be directed to Robin or me. You can send
e-mail to us
> via the AMSAT Web site at
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/AboutAmsat/officers.php.
>
> From AMSAT's perspective everything has happened according to normal
procedures
> through a recognized AMSAT INDIA authority. The conflicts exist within
India and must
> be solved there.  AMSAT will do what we can to assist in the resolution of
these
> issues but we have no authority to intervene, only to advise and assist.
>
> Rick
> W2GPS
> AMSAT President
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-AMSAT-BB@amsat.org [mailto:owner-AMSAT-BB@amsat.org] On Behalf
Of William
> Leijenaar
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 5:03 PM
> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] RE: Hamsat now VO-52
>
> Hi AMSATs,
>
> It is increadible that the name is still not changed. Its even terrible
that they
> even changed the HAMSAT name in VO-52...
>
> Now its like VUSAT (aka HAMSAT), instead of HAMSAT (aka VUSAT)
>
> I am awaiting for the "EAGLE" to be ready. Like the HAMSAT has got another
name by
> none participants, I will give the "EAGLE" also another name as
none-participant in
> this project.
>
> I will not name it as "EAGLE" but as "VULTURE", or any other kind of ugly
looking
> animal...
>
> You think the satellite builder will like that? I didn't even mentioned
the US (Eagle
> proud) hams...
>
> Have a nice day x :o)
> 73
> William
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