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Re: R: SkyCross 2.4 ghz antenna?

Hi All,
My 31 year old car runs quite well, it all has to do with maintenance! It
has the features I like, positive steering, electronic fuel injection,
controls and gauges labeled in English, etc. It doesn't have the features I
don't like, which is, it doesn't talk to me, it doesn't have a check engine
light, and gauges and controls are not covered with little characters that
need to be deciphered.

This obviously doesn't,t bother a lot of people, as most of the cars on the
road to day have all the features I do not like. The best part of all of
this, is in my Country, I have the freedom ot drive my car, and repair it.

In Amateur Radio just like my car, we all have the fredom to construct what
we want and operate it in accordance with the law.

FM birds are a way of reaching new operators, and maybe we don't like the
radios they drive,  but it brings new people to the satellite world.

Allot of our members spend their time on computer controlled tracking, and
Doppler shift compensation. Not all of us are computer gurus.

I enjoy building antennas and equipment demonstrating that you do not need
to spend thousandson Dollars on fancy equipment to work satellites.
I  worked AO-13 and AO-10 using two home built antennas on a 6' stepladder
for a Palomar Amateur Radio Club Field Dayin the mid 1990's.  I did create
interest in satellites, and one PARC member went on to become an elmer for
AMSAT. Again I am experimenting with antennas for LEO's and doing reasonably
well using a 1 wavelength QFH antenna.

Just like my choice of car, I am doing the antenna experiments for me. If
anyone else follows that is nice ,but I hope they are doing it for them, and
not to be just part of the crowd or be cool!

Amsat Mbr 24,268

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hertel" <coastwide@frontiernet.net>
To: "Dave Guimont" <dguimon1@san.rr.com>
Cc: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@tin.it>; <amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: R: [amsat-bb] SkyCross 2.4 ghz antenna?

> Gentlemen,
>     I really, Don't but Do agree,  with you both . If it wasn't for
> those dang FM birds your favorite sats projects would fall flat on its
> nose. I do remember the complaining from many a QST article on how we
> got dumped from a ride at the last minute. Because that we were trying
> to be getting a free ride.  So we paid for it, took ten years or
> somthing like that? I am suprised that AO40  lasted as long as it did.
> How's your ten year old vehicle lasting these days?
>     So you both want to condemn those FM dudes from experimenting?  How
> long ago was it when you were just getting into the sats?
> How did you get started?  Did you just go out and buy that equipment or
> did you build it?  Most of those stupid FM bird boys and girls graduated
> on to the other birds , or what's left up there to work. Some go on to
> Pacsats and monitor the weather birds and such.  If it wasn't for those
> FM birds  Half of your contacts on the other birds wouldn't be there.
> Ever think of that? HEY you wanna give back those Grid contacts back?
> Those stupid birds were designed to entice the question, Can I make it?
> Can I work it? Wow I did it with what , a HT and an arrow antenna.
> KewL...
>     Don't forget your society of bird lovers was dwindling  before the
> Easy sats came along. Most of who worked AO 40 came off the FM birds and
> they DID create excitement and a push to the powers to be to push AO40
> off the ground. Don't forget thier money was sent in too. If it wasn't
> for that push AO40 would still be sittin at the dock waiting for its
> ship to get in.
> Yes I would like to see another bird , somthing like AO10 that was a
> good one almost a easy sat. I would like to get a dish and work the 2.4
> up band. So I also am patiently waiting too.
> We don't need complainers we need ELMERS, and money.... hi
> So quite complaining and donate.... money that is. ... hi
> And in the mean time Elmer some one to the easy sats along with the hard
> ones too,  some like the challenge YOU may be supprised
> If not go to HF.....work the terestals there.... hi
> How soon they forget.
> So I challenge You to help!
> 73's
> Jim
> Dave Guimont wrote:
> >> > Hope the German bird comes along soon so I can get back to
> >> experimenting.
> >>
> >> What kind of science is it, to buy a FM ham radio hand held and
> >> modify it
> >> for use on a box if  actually we dont have a satellite available to
> >> communicate worldwide as we did using all modes with OSCAR-10, 13 and
> >> AO40 ?
> >
> >
> > Yes, I certainly agree with you, Dom.  I've been screaming about this
> > for years.  We are lucky to have Europe behind the P3 program, and
> > I've given what little support I can to them, and not AMSAT-NA...
> >
> > I just hope AMSAT-NA hasn't shot themselves in the foot with the
> > ridiculous FM birds.
> >
> > Time will tell..
> >
> > Very nice to hear from you, Dom.  A lot of us have our fingers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >            73, Dave wb6llo@amsat.org
> >                    Disagree: I learn....
> >
> >
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