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Re: DARES NL helps in Asia



I had some contact`s with HAM`s in Asia.
In Indonesia there is no HAM radio in the disaster aria , forbidden deu to
the war.
But everywere else HAM`s were active with modern equipment.
One told me about the nice transponder mode in a TM-V 7......

The DARES club wants to be the national Dutch ARES , who will get the money
that the gouvernement may have for an organisation like that.
But they are not verry active in setting up lokal response groups.....

The BIG factory`s produce in Asia.
My idea : let them give away some `overtime` rig`s via the HAM clubs there.
That will also save a lot of transport money....

Chris PA5RWE

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edward R. Cole" <al7eb@acsalaska.net>
To: "William Leijenaar" <pe1rah@hotmail.com>; <amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] DARES NL helps in Asia


> William,
>
> Interesting, yes!
>
> What occurs to me are some questions:
> 1)  Is there a list of areas needing communications (i.e. no local in-tact
> telecom services)?
> 2)  Is there a list of local ham radio operators in these areas?
> 3)  Is there a list of hams in the area that are available to help (in
> needed locations)?
> 4)  Is there a list of what these hams have in equipment: bands, modes,
etc.?
> 5)  Is there a lise of areas which have no local power?
>
> Knowing some of this enables an "agency" or group to know what to respond
> with!   And where and who to send it to.  In all disasters there is much
> chaos due to poor coordination (which often is due to poor
communications),
> with wrong resources going to the wrong area at the wrong time.
>
> OK, most of this information is best accumulated "before the fact"!  This
> is called planning.  Obviously this is absent in the South Asia Disaster.
> So now one is faced with figuring out what to do in support without good,
> or in some cases no, information.
>
> Sending equipment in support is admirable, and hopefully will get into
> hands of capable people and needing areas.  It is especially good to not
> just send off a "pile of cast-off equipment"...better that complete
> stations be packaged and marked as such.  Portable repeaters are another
> good idea and can either be constructed from HT's or mobile radios,
> depending on the power source available (HT rptrs work better from
batteries).
>
> Where I work we have 8 solar-powered, battery HT-based repeaters (6 are
VHF
> and two cross-band).  They are heavy units that are best moved by
> helicopter or pickup.  We also have two Pelican cased VHF repeaters that
> use 6-volt lattern batteries and weigh 20-lbs.  All these are
> self-contained with necessary antennas, cables, and set-up instructions!
> In addition is a communication planning book to instruct how to build a
> radio network.   We also have 12 GPS trackers (half use VHF to report and
> half use the Argos satellite).  All this cost money...about $500K.  It is
> for comm support of oil spills in this part of Alaska.  No it cannot be
> sent in support of the disaster in Asia as it is part of the legal
> requirement for shipping oil in Alaska waters.
>
> The needs for southern asia are a hundred times (maybe thousand) this!
BTW
> it is a good idea to have trained and identified personel availble to go
> with such equipment to set-up and operate.
>
> I think perhaps a marriage between the Winlink system and ham satellites
> might be useful in certain ways.  I find it interesting that no use of
> AO-51 is evident, so far!  Amsat can certainly look at how to best support
> emergencies with satellites by interfacing with the exisiting national and
> international disaster relief agencies (to understand their needs and to
> apprise them of what we offer).  In the US a start is with ARES, ARRL, and
> Home Land Security.
>
> Well these are just some of my thoughts.
>
> 73's Ed - AL7EB
> Dept. Head of Comms
> Cook Inlet Spill Prevention and Response
>
> At 08:15 AM 1/6/2005 +0100, William Leijenaar wrote:
> >Hi AMSATs,
> >
> >Just found some interresting news about the help of hams in the Asia
> >disaster area by DARES NL.
> >The page is from DARES Netherlands, but its also in English language...
> >
> >Just look at the following message:
> >http://www.dares.nl/tsunami_repater_project.htm
> >
> >More you can find on:
> >http://www.dares.nl/daresnieuws.htm
> >
> >Maybe in the future AMSAT could also do some help. Even when it is
little,
> >its better than nothing.
> >Interresting would be something like interlinking some of the repeaters.
> >Today its already possible via internet-interlink, but when that is not
> >working and hamsat link would be an option :o)
> >
> >Just an idea...
> >
> >73 de PE1RAH, William
> >---
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