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RE: RE: Real Paranoia



I suppose production of keps is not a function of the country, but rather of
technical ability.

73!

A.J. Farmer, AJ3U
http://www.aj3u.com


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From: owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org [mailto:owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org] On Behalf
Of G8IFF/KC8NHF
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 10:19 PM
To: amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RE: Real Paranoia


Is the US the ONLY country with the capability to produce keps?
Some other country must have the facility.

A.J. Farmer wrote:

>That's good to hear.  As I said I am sure we will still be able to get keps
>for Amateur satellites somehow.  You have just confirmed that.
>
>Thanks!
>
>A.J. Farmer, AJ3U
>http://www.aj3u.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Don Woodward [mailto:dbwoodw@alltel.net] 
>Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 3:27 PM
>To: A.J. Farmer; amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org
>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RE: Real Paranoia
>
>
>The distribution of TLE's is __NOT__ stopping.
>
>I just spoke with NASA OIG and they told me the tentative plan is to stop
>the OIG distribution October 1st, although this may go longer - US STRATCOM
>(Strategic Command) will take over the distribution and that more
>information will be posted on the NASA OIG website when available.  I asked
>the question "as a amateur radio operator with current access to OIG will I
>still be able to get access to the data through the new system" and the
>answer was "yes".
>
>I don't know what the current qualifications are to get a OIG account -
when
>I got my account the justification I made was that "I am amateur satellite
>radio operator".
>
>I would suggest everyone apply for an OIG account as the distribution by
>anyone other than US STRATCOM appears to be what is stopping - not the
>access.   (http://oig1.gsfc.nasa.gov)
>
>Note: I have no affiliation to any government agency or private agency
>involved in the Space industry.
>
>My 2 cents!
>
>73's
>
>Don Woodward
>KD4APP
>AMSAT 33535
>http://kd4app.webhop.org
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "A.J. Farmer" <ajfarmer@spenet.com>
>To: <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
>Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 14:39
>Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] RE: Real Paranoia
>
>
>Those are interesting ideas as to "why" but it doesn't really matter what
>the reason is for this action.  The decision has already been made.
>
>For what it is worth, some of "the bad people" as you put it definitely
have
>the capacity to shoot one down.  Remember, we aren't just talking about
>terrorists here.  There are developed nations with high technology that
have
>their crosshairs on the US and the first obvious target in a massive attack
>would be communications systems including satellites.  I don't want to turn
>this BB into a political debate though so I will stop here...
>
>The point is, the public distribution of keps is stopping.  Trying to
figure
>out the real reason why and argue won't reverse this decision.
>
>I wouldn't worry about this too much.  I think sources of keps for Amateur
>satellites will remain available via some means.
>
>73!
>
>A.J. Farmer, AJ3U
>http://www.aj3u.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org [mailto:owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org] On Behalf
>Of GEORGE ABBOTT
>Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 12:29 PM
>To: 'Reicher, James'; RogerKola@aol.com; salo@saloits.com;
>amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org
>Subject: [amsat-bb] RE: Real Paranoia
>
>
>Are they concerned about damage to the satellites or their use as an
>unauthorized communication devise? I doubt that the bad people presently
>have the capacity to shoot one down.Are they are concerned that the bad
>people can hide stuff if they know when the birds will be over their
>location. Can High power RF be used to cause damage to the birds?Is this
>a big concern to the government?
>What alternatives can we develop that will be National Security
>friendly?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Reicher, James [mailto:JReicher@hrblock.com]
>Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 9:31 AM
>To: GEORGE ABBOTT; RogerKola@aol.com; salo@saloits.com;
>amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org
>Subject: Real Paranoia
>
>Actually, on the part of our illustrious Congressmen and Senators, not
>to mention the entire Executive Branch of the US government, it is both
>real AND paranoia.
>
>73 de N8AU, Jim in Raymore, MO
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org [mailto:owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org] On
>Behalf Of GEORGE ABBOTT
>Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 7:03 PM
>Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Public Law 108-136 and TLEs
>
>Is this for real or just paranoia?Will our sat's become useless without
>TLE data?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org [mailto:owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org] On
>Behalf Of RogerKola
>Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Public Law 108-136 and TLEs
>
>In a message dated 8/12/2004 3:04:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>salo@saloits.com writes:
>
>
>  
>
>>Finally, the AMSAT Board of Directors and the ARRL should
>>be actively and visible working this issue.  At a minimum,
>>I suggest that the AMSAT membership pass a resolution
>>at the October Space Symposium "directing" the Board to
>>pursue this issue.  My other modest proposal on this topic
>>is that AMSAT contract to distribute TLEs for amateur
>>satellites to its members.
>>
>>-tjs
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Nicely put...I agree
>
>Roger
>WA1KAT
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