RE: [amsat-bb] RE: Real Paranoia

["A.J. Farmer" <ajfarmer@xxxxxxxxxx>]

That's good to hear.  As I said I am sure we will still be able to get keps
for Amateur satellites somehow.  You have just confirmed that.

Thanks!

A.J. Farmer, AJ3U
http://www.aj3u.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Don Woodward [mailto:dbwoodw@alltel.net] 
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 3:27 PM
To: A.J. Farmer; amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] RE: Real Paranoia


The distribution of TLE's is __NOT__ stopping.

I just spoke with NASA OIG and they told me the tentative plan is to stop
the OIG distribution October 1st, although this may go longer - US STRATCOM
(Strategic Command) will take over the distribution and that more
information will be posted on the NASA OIG website when available.  I asked
the question "as a amateur radio operator with current access to OIG will I
still be able to get access to the data through the new system" and the
answer was "yes".

I don't know what the current qualifications are to get a OIG account - when
I got my account the justification I made was that "I am amateur satellite
radio operator".

I would suggest everyone apply for an OIG account as the distribution by
anyone other than US STRATCOM appears to be what is stopping - not the
access.   (http://oig1.gsfc.nasa.gov)

Note: I have no affiliation to any government agency or private agency
involved in the Space industry.

My 2 cents!

73's

Don Woodward
KD4APP
AMSAT 33535
http://kd4app.webhop.org


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "A.J. Farmer" <ajfarmer@spenet.com>
To: <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 14:39
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] RE: Real Paranoia


Those are interesting ideas as to "why" but it doesn't really matter what
the reason is for this action.  The decision has already been made.

For what it is worth, some of "the bad people" as you put it definitely have
the capacity to shoot one down.  Remember, we aren't just talking about
terrorists here.  There are developed nations with high technology that have
their crosshairs on the US and the first obvious target in a massive attack
would be communications systems including satellites.  I don't want to turn
this BB into a political debate though so I will stop here...

The point is, the public distribution of keps is stopping.  Trying to figure
out the real reason why and argue won't reverse this decision.

I wouldn't worry about this too much.  I think sources of keps for Amateur
satellites will remain available via some means.

73!

A.J. Farmer, AJ3U
http://www.aj3u.com


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org [mailto:owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org] On Behalf
Of GEORGE ABBOTT
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 12:29 PM
To: 'Reicher, James'; RogerKola@aol.com; salo@saloits.com;
amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org
Subject: [amsat-bb] RE: Real Paranoia


Are they concerned about damage to the satellites or their use as an
unauthorized communication devise? I doubt that the bad people presently
have the capacity to shoot one down.Are they are concerned that the bad
people can hide stuff if they know when the birds will be over their
location. Can High power RF be used to cause damage to the birds?Is this
a big concern to the government?
What alternatives can we develop that will be National Security
friendly?

-----Original Message-----
From: Reicher, James [mailto:JReicher@hrblock.com]
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 9:31 AM
To: GEORGE ABBOTT; RogerKola@aol.com; salo@saloits.com;
amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org
Subject: Real Paranoia

Actually, on the part of our illustrious Congressmen and Senators, not
to mention the entire Executive Branch of the US government, it is both
real AND paranoia.

73 de N8AU, Jim in Raymore, MO

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org [mailto:owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org] On
Behalf Of GEORGE ABBOTT
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 7:03 PM
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Public Law 108-136 and TLEs

Is this for real or just paranoia?Will our sat's become useless without
TLE data?

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org [mailto:owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org] On
Behalf Of RogerKola
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Public Law 108-136 and TLEs

In a message dated 8/12/2004 3:04:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
salo@saloits.com writes:


> Finally, the AMSAT Board of Directors and the ARRL should
> be actively and visible working this issue.  At a minimum,
> I suggest that the AMSAT membership pass a resolution
> at the October Space Symposium "directing" the Board to
> pursue this issue.  My other modest proposal on this topic
> is that AMSAT contract to distribute TLEs for amateur
> satellites to its members.
>
> -tjs
>

Nicely put...I agree

Roger
WA1KAT
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