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Re: satellite roadmap?



Jim has a most excellent point towards the end:

 >On a closing topic, AMSAT-NA is an all-volunteer organization, a 501c3
 >organization,
 >which is dependent upon donations to fund activities.  Contribute as you're
 >able.
 >That means money, time and talent.  We don't get government subsidies.

Those of you who work for large corporations (like me) often have "matching 
gift" programs for qualified 501c3 organizations.  Check into it...make 
your donations go twice as far!


At 08:04 2004-02-16, you wrote:

>Guys...
>
>This is being sent via AMSAT-BB, a free service provided
>by AMSAT-NA.  Opinions are those of the author, not AMSAT-NA
>or any other AMSAT national organization.
>
>WHAT IS IT with AMSAT bashing?  And WHICH AMSAT are we bashing?
>This is the third time I've seeing this wave, since coming back
>to help AMSAT-NA.
>
>Frankly, I can't believe how factionalized this has become.
>LEO vs HEO.  SSB vs Digital. Satellite vs ISS.  Do this.
>Do that.  You call THAT a satellite?
>
>What IS it with you people?
>
>If a potential major donor of launch space or funds were to view
>this bulletin board, they would be turned off immediately.  Can you
>begin to imagine how much damage you do, with these rants?
>
>I'm a newbie-retread, but let me see if I can address SOME of the
>questions or comments, as I understand them.  Smarter folks than
>I can fill in the gaps, If I miss something:
>
>First, why not build another AO-40?  Well, the last one took 10 years
>and only AMSAT-DL knows how much. It's their bird. AMSAT-NA and ARRL
>contributed around USD 2M between them.
>
>P3E is well underway, and planned for 2005-2006 launch, as I understand
>it.  Again, it's a DL bird.
>
>Eagle is a 5 year project, in the design stage, and loosely considered
>as 2008.  "Design" also means looking for funding, and there are profound
>considerations here.  I'll come back to that, after a brief aside.
>
>In planning, (as I understand it..I wasn't there.) the AMSAT-NA board
>listened
>to the very vocal LEO community. They considered that ao-40 was going up in
>2000, and p3e was planned for 5 years later.  Why launch another HEO, in
>between?  Did they have money to launch another HEO, or could they find it?
>Instead, they decided to satisfy the LEO consituency.  With perfect
>hindsight,
>we could perhaps take issue with that logic, but the project fit the
>available
>budget, and met the needs of an underserved constituency.
>
>Coming back to funding:
>
>Putting satellites in orbit isn't cheap.  Present launch rates are
>USD 10,000/kg.  A half ton bird will cost $5M, to put in orbit.  How
>much to build?  Another couple million, probably, depending on what
>goes in it.  What's its lifetime? 5 or maybe 10 years?  Well, it IS
>rocket science, after all...who knows?
>
>Absent foundation grants, major angel donors, or government subsidies,
>if "AMSAT" (which one...NA, UK, DL...?) had 1000 members, and the cost
>were USD 10M to build and launch, that would be $1,000 per member, amortized
>over some lifetime.  Something like USD 100-200 per year.
>
>How much have YOU donated, specifically to satellite construction and
>launch,
>over the past 10 years?  Kind of makes the first line of the previous
>paragraph a serious consideration, eh?
>
>AMSAT-NA's board is revisiting its strategic planning, now.  It cannot be
>done
>in public, much as you might want it to be, for reasons associated with
>potential
>sources of funding, among others.
>
>On a closing topic, AMSAT-NA is an all-volunteer organization, a 501c3
>organization,
>which is dependent upon donations to fund activities.  Contribute as you're
>able.
>That means money, time and talent.  We don't get government subsidies.
>
>Once again, this is being sent via AMSAT-BB, a free service provided by
>AMSAT-NA.
>The comments, and any factual or logical errors contained therein, are those
>of
>the author, not AMSAT-NA. Contain your flames to private messages, please,
>at
>the address below.
>
>Jim Jarvis, N2EA
>Marketing Manager, AMSAT-NA
>jimjarvis@ieee.org
>
>
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Scott Townley NX7U
Gilbert, AZ  DM43di
http://members.cox.net/nx7u 

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