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New baseline for GEO
- Subject: [amsat-bb] New baseline for GEO
- From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 15:27:02 -0400 (EDT)
- In-Reply-To: <Law9-F79OAkK5LqN33H0001dd2c@hotmail.com>
> ...if you use 10m for the downlink, ... throw in 18 dB of atmospheric
> noise.... That is why we only planned to use 10m for uplink (where it
> has hardly any noise out at GEO)...
I was wrong. Its galactic noise, not atmospheric so its just as bad at
GEO.. Back to square one. As N4HY says, only advantage is the cheaper
Killowatt AMP at 28 MHz if you can get one...
So here are my new link budgets for the FM transponder workable with an
Arrow Antenna. THey are the same both ways, since you just swap the 0 dB
satellite antenna for the higher gain Arrow antenna. (On 10m you need a
full size 3 element beam)... and change between 50W on the ground..
LINKS to an ARROW ant For 10m For 2m For 70cm
------------------------- -------- -------- --------
TX power 20 43 dBm 43 dBm 43 dBm
TX Antenna Gain 0 dBi 0 dBi 0 dBi
Polarization loss -3 Db -3 dB -3 Db
Resulting EIRP 40 dBm 40 dBm 40 dBm
Path Loss at 2 m -153 dB -167 dBm -176 dB
Receiver Antenna Gain 10 dBi 10 dBi 13 dBi
Received signal -103 dBm -117 dBm -123 dBm
Required for 12db SINAD
in 3 KHz bandwidth -121 dBm -121 dBm -121 dBm
Sky noise 18 dB 3 dB none
------------------------- -------- -------- --------
Margin 0 dB +1 dB -2 dB
Notes:
- The uplinks from a 50W mobile rig will be 4 dB better
- The downlink can only be on a small percentage of time
because a 20W RF amp will likely draw 60W of DC power
and only about 10W average will be available...
Again, there will be two uplinks, one for net control (priority) and one
for the net...
de WB4APR, Bob
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