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Re: New "Bird Builders"



last summer i participated in Aviation challange, which is part of Space
Camp, it is a great Idea, but the profits probably wouldn't be that great,
espetially from what i learned while at aviation challange. It is worth a
try, I would be intrested.

Josh
va7jaj
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gunther Meisse" <gogm@wmfd.com>
To: <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:39 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] New "Bird Builders"


> Jon & Jeff & all members:
> A new crop of bird builders? How about an "AMSAT Summer Space Camp"?
> Team up with an organization like one of the Universities or the Navy who
> have an active bird building program. We host he Summer Camp at the
> University, cooperatively develop the curriculum, make some money for the
> AMSAT budget, and bring along some young people who might become out next
> builders.
> Make the Camp available to anyone, in say the High School level, with
> special emphasis on the schools that have participated in the ARISS
program.
> The Camp would be 10 days to 2 weeks, in a campus environment, with time
> spent in the classroom and in the lab where actual birds were being built.
A
> portion of the curriculum would include sessions on the basics of Amateur
> Radio, how to get your license, orbital math & physics, construction
> limitations and protocol, and hopefully some personal time with a seasoned
> bird builder. Take-homes would include study guides for your ham ticket, a
> student copy of NOVA (or such) which they could put on their home computer
> and show all their friends, pictures of them in the spacecraft lab,
placing
> their name on the spacecraft that will someday soon be in orbit, etc,
etc...
> This could be a destiny setting event for young people!!!
> Ok all you ham, teachers, builders, and ARISS volunteers, start thinking
> about this..
> The relationship with a university is ideal since they have the physical
> structure to accommodate the participants, and the prestige to help
attract
> and publicize them. I think they would jump at the concept. It smacks of
> potential students for the University. The tuition would cover the
> university's expenses and provide a profit center for AMSAT, and would set
> the stage for future bird builders.
> I think the Space Camp concept was a success at NASA Huntsville.. Have not
> heard much about it in recent years, so I am not sure if it still happens.
> Perhaps one of us who is associated with NASA could find out and share
> observations.
> Just one more rung in a very tall ladder.
> Gunther
> W8GSM
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org [mailto:owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org]On
> Behalf Of Jon Ogden
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:02 AM
> To: jeff@ke9v.com
> Cc: amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org; Gunther Meisse
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Financial support - REPLY -
>
>
> Jeff,
>
> I have to agree with you here.  While I think that the current crop of
> designers/builders in the USA is a group of very smart and intelligent
> men, you are correct that they are getting up in years.  What surprised
> me as well when I saw the list of Eagle builders was that I don' t
> think I saw any real new blood.  Perhaps I've missed it, but I don't
> think I ever saw any appeal for help in the journal or on the BB.  I've
> wondered what you have to do to be in the "builder's circle."  Not
> saying I'd want to, but short of guys like Bruninga and the
> Universities building LEOs, there's not much elmering of younger folks
> for building sats.  Even if some newcomers who don't know squat could
> sit and watch Eagle being built and learn from the older hams, that
> would be a benefit.  Maybe it's happening, I don't know.
>
> AMSAT should start some sort of program to mentor/elmer new builders
> and actively invite more participation like that.  And I think this can
> be done with nearly zero funding.  We've got to have some more rocket
> scientists here than we think.
>
> 73,
>
> Jon
> NA9D
>
> On Tuesday, Jun 17, 2003, at 18:52 America/Chicago, <jeff@ke9v.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Even more pressing (in my opinion) is the lack of technology transfer
> > from one generation to the next. If you were to gather all the "key"
> > people in the _entire world_ who are working on amateur satellite
> > projects, any of us could afford to buy them all dinner at a nice
> > restaurant. There are precious few of them. And if you pay close
> > attention, you will see that most of them have been retired from their
> > "real" careers for years ... in a nutshell, the folks who have the
> > knowledge and ability to lead satellite projects, design satellites,
> > build satellites, and then get them launched is a very tiny number and
> > they are getting on in years. What happens to amateur radio in space
> > when they are gone?
> -------------------------------------
> Jon Ogden
> NA9D (ex: KE9NA)
>
> Citizen of the People's Democratic Republik of Illinois
>
> Life Member: ARRL, NRA
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>
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> choose."
>
>                                  - Dr. Steven Covey
>
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