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Re: UO-14 Phonetics?



You guys must drive better cars than I do. On our local repeaters, in cars
at highway speed, unless you already know who you are talking to, phonetics
are quite appreciated.  Wind noise is a problem, car noise is a problem. To
generalize that they are poor operating practice or "useless" is yet another
example of trying to apply your local requirements to other local
environments. We in this country are often accused of being US-centric.
Well...I find a large element of the same mentality when it comes to
aprs/amsat/whatever.

There is no "one size fits all".

That is called the "illusion of central position" ....everything revolves
around me and my perceptions, everything else is false. It is a common
failure among us all.

DX Ops in any qrm environment have found for many years that phonetics work,
and work well. I hardly consider them poor operators. The chances of getting
a grid square correctly without phonetics, approaches zero in many cases, so
let's not paint the use of phonetics with too broad a brush, eh guys?

...hasan, N0AN

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Ogden" <na9d-2@speakeasy.net>
To: "Bob Bruninga" <bruninga@usna.edu>; <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] UO-14 Phonetics?


> on 2/26/03 12:50 PM, Bob Bruninga at bruninga@usna.edu wrote:
>
> > On FM, there is no need for phonetics, you either hear it or you dont.
> > ANd with all the pileup, the success probability of hearing "W3XYZ"
> > complete is  six times higher than hearing the full phonetic version.  I
> > thought this commmon knowledge in HAM RADIO 101?
>
> Bob,
>
> Ever listen to your local repeater?  You hear phonetics all the time.
It's
> characteristic of poor operators.  The guys who use HF and go DX hunting
are
> the WORST.  There's some guys here that hang out on a repeater I use.  Not
> only do they use phonetics sometimes, they give their call EVERY time they
> hand the conversation over!
>
> Phonetics are NOT needed on FM and you are right!  The only time they
might
> be needed is when someone can't tell a "B" from a "D" or similar.  Then
when
> asked for the correction you send it.  Or I might say N A 9 Delta. Since
> it's easy to mistake.
>
> 73,
>
> Jon
> NA9D
>
> -------------------------------------
> Jon Ogden
> NA9D (ex: KE9NA)
>
> Citizen of the People's Democratic Republik of Illinois
>
> Life Member: ARRL, NRA
> Member:  AMSAT, DXCC
>
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>
> "A life lived in fear is a life half lived."
>
>
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