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RE: UO-14 Phonetics?


I don't know where you heard that phonetics are not needed on FM but let me
assure they are and it is proper procedure to make yourself understood. As a
person whose call is munged up many times on the repeater as Tee Oh or Dee
Oh or even Zee Oh I can tell you it is easier to say Papa Oscar and in one
transmission make it clear what my call is.

So instead of having to get through the UO14 QRM jammers and heterodynes by
saying EEEE Nen 5 2 over and over I can say Echo November 5 2 once and be

You could use the UO14 passes to perhaps teach the proper international
phonetic alphabet to your students. Although you may then have to explain
why so many hams insist on using made up phonetic (vanity and cutesyness
instead of trying to communicate). I am a pilot and I HAVE to use the
correct ones on the radio with ATC so out of discipline I stick with them on
the ham band.

My $.02

Kilo Niner Papa Oscar in Echo November  5 2

Message: 17
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:50:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Subject: [amsat-bb] UO-14 Phonetics?

Comment on UO-14 contacts:

I am not a DX "operator" and don't work contests or pileups, so the
"problem"  is all my lack of talent at working a pileup, BUT... I do have
an observation to make:

While demonstrating UO14 to a group of students outside in 20 deg weather
with a 0 degree windchill, we came up on UO14 "from the Naval Academy".
I had prepped the students to listen for Grid Squares, but what made it
impossible for me was that everyone was using long drawn out PHONETICS for
almost EVERY CALL.  Thus instead of saying "W3XYZ, EM43", we hear

Thus every call takes 6 times longer, has an 6 times higher chance of QRM,
reducing througput by a factor of 6 and most importantly, requires 6 times
more grey cells of temporary memory in my brain to be able to regurgitate
in the cold, the pressure, the distractions of 20 students asking
questions and the pileup is an order of magnitude harder than just saying
"QSL W3XYZ EM43, this is W3ADO FM19".

On FM, there is no need for phonetics, you either hear it or you dont.
ANd with all the pileup, the success probability of hearing "W3XYZ"
complete is  six times higher than hearing the full phonetic version.  I
thought this commmon knowledge in HAM RADIO 101?

Anyway, We heard dozens of stations, reliably, but due to my inability to
regurgitate the full phonetics, or on the fly convert to spelling, the
only ones we felt we completed were the few that simply said their
callsign simply.  Yes, I know the phonetic alphabet, but It is my fault
that it takes me a few milliseconds to convert from phonetics to letters
because I am not a seasoned contester, so I cannot "complain" since it is
my inexperience.

But... I can point out, that you can get a LOT more reliable contacts out
of someone that is slow with the lips like me, (in 0 deg windchill) if you
just say the call, and not the phonetics on an FM channel!

Just an opinion from a casual satellite user...


Scott F. Migaldi, K9PO & JN3XCV
**"A long time ago being crazy meant something, nowadays everyone is
crazy" -- Charles Manson**

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