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RE: Re: TS-2000X



Your statement reminds me of the good ol' boys on 75 phone who run 2kw to
talk to the guy across town.  They say they need the power to cut through
the QRM, but what they're really doing is feeding their egos.  I'm a QRP'er
and have been since I got my ticket.  I'm constantly running across the "59
+ 20, beautiful signal" report that suddenly turns to "what?  Too much QSB"
when they find out I'm using an FT-817 to a dipole.  

As I stated before, good operating practice (and the regulations) say that
one uses the minimum power necessary to maintain the contact.  The operating
procedure on AO-40 says that the uplink ERP of the station should be such
that the downlink signal is 8-10 dB weaker than the middle beacon.  What
part of TOO MUCH POWER do you not understand? 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Ogden [mailto:na9d-2@speakeasy.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:34 AM
To: Reicher, James; Amsat BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: TS-2000X


Looking back at my statement, perhaps he wasn't as loud as the beacon.  No,
he wasn't. I misspoke.  Yet he was not 10 dB below it for sure.  Maybe 3 dB
to 4 dB (and if there's only 2 or 3 people on the satellite who cares!  It's
not like it's going to hurt it!)  I was impressed with his setup.  I was
amazed that at 1/4 Watt out of his radio was all he needed.

Yet, no one else is impressed with this but me.  Everyone has crucified this
guy who is pretty well known on AO-40 I think because he has a loud signal.
I thought one purpose of being in ham radio was to put together a good
station, the best station possible.

It's just amazing how the Boy Scouts on this list tend to crucify people
that they don't know a lot about.  Makes me ashamed to even be part of
satellites.  Guess these are the same people who have always wanted to make
sat ops a little "club" for only those with the right equipment.  I
obviously don't have it since I'm being told I can't hear well with my
setup.  Guess my own experience and ears just don't count for anything and I
should bow in humble adoration to their more knowledgeable views.

Jon


on 2/4/03 9:07 AM, Reicher, James at JReicher@hrblock.com wrote:

> Jon, since good operating practice is to be about 3-6 dB weaker than
> the beacon, if a station is as loud as the beacon, they are using too 
> much power.  No ifs, ands, or buts.  The sensitivity of the L band 
> receiver just means the station should be using lower power.
> 
> 73 de N8AU, Jim in Raymore, MO
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Ogden [mailto:na9d-2@speakeasy.net]
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:36 PM
> To: Reicher, James; Amsat BB
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: TS-2000X
> 
> 
> on 2/3/03 4:10 PM, Reicher, James at JReicher@hrblock.com wrote:
> 
>> Ah HA!!!  One of the guilty L banders speaks!
>> 
>> 73 de N8AU, Jim in Raymore, MO
> 
> It's amazing how quickly people rush to call the L-banders "guilty."
> 
> I worked W0LMD a few nights ago.  He has a 14 foot dish he uses on the
> uplink.  He was as loud as the beacon.  He was only using about a 
> quarter watt.  If one has a good uplink antenna and is running the 
> minimum power they can, they should not be called "guilty."
> 
> The facts are, IMHO, that from the little I've seen of AO-40 that the
> L band receiver is much better in performance than the U band 
> receiver.
> -------------------------------------
> Jon Ogden
> NA9D (ex: KE9NA)
> 
> Citizen of the People's Democratic Republik of Illinois
> 
> Life Member: ARRL, NRA
> Member:  AMSAT, DXCC
> 
> http://www.qsl.net/na9d   <- Updated on 1/22/03!!!
> 
> "A life lived in fear is a life half lived."
> 
> 

-------------------------------------
Jon Ogden
NA9D (ex: KE9NA)

Citizen of the People's Democratic Republik of Illinois

Life Member: ARRL, NRA
Member:  AMSAT, DXCC

http://www.qsl.net/na9d   <- Updated on 1/22/03!!!

"A life lived in fear is a life half lived."

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