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Re: ANS - AO-07 rehash



I was looking at these regs myself because someone had suggested that EME
operators could legitimately complain that a satellite uplink is operating
out of its sub-band.  However, a literal interpretation of "Earth Station"
would include EME operators since the only requirement is the use of an
"object in space".  So in fact, it is they who have been out of band all
these years.

No, I'm not arguing to move EME ops into the satellite sub-band.  Just
wanted to point out that there is a LONG history of Earth Station operation
in the region of 432 MHz.

73,
Lee-KU4OS

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Woodward" <dbwoodw@alltel.net>
To: "Amsat Bulletin Board" <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ANS - AO-07 rehash


> Unless someone files a complaint with the FCC you can use whatever
frequencies
> you want - we HAMS are a self-policing organization. In case anyone wants
to
> read the actual rules, here they are below - in the mean time, I'm going
to
> enjoy AO-07 while it lasts.
>
>
============================================================================
====
> =============
>
> 97.209 ...
>
> [Code of Federal Regulations]
> [Title 47, Volume 5]
> [Revised as of October 1, 2001]
> From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access
> [CITE: 47CFR97.209]
>
> [Page 591-592]
>
>                        TITLE 47--TELECOMMUNICATION
>
>                     CHAPTER I--FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS
>                          COMMISSION (CONTINUED)
>
> PART 97--AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE--Table of Contents
>
>                       Subpart C--Special Operations
>
> Sec. 97.209  Earth station.
>
>     (a) Any amateur station may be an Earth station. A holder of any
> class operator license may be the control operator of an Earth station,
> subject to the privileges of the class of operator license held by the
> control operator.
>     (b) The following frequency bands and segments are authorized to
> Earth stations:
>
> [[Page 592]]
>
>     (1) The 17 m, 15 m, 12 m, and 10 m bands, 6 mm, 4 mm, 2 mm and 1 mm
> bands; and
>     (2) The 7.0-7.1 MHz, 14.00-14.25 MHz, 144-146 MHz, 435-438 MHz,
> 1260-1270 MHz and 2400-2450 MHz, 3.40-3.41 GHz, 5.65-5.67 GHz, 10.45-
> 10.50 GHz and 24.00-24.05 GHz segments.
>
> [54 FR 25857, June 20, 1989, as amended at 54 FR 39535, Sept. 27, 1989]
>
>
> =======================================================================
>
> 97.3.16 ...
>
>     (16) Earth station. An amateur station located on, or within 50 km
> of, the Earth's surface intended for communications with space stations
> or with other Earth stations by means of one or more other objects in
> space.
>
> ==========================================================================
>
> 97.3.40 ...
>
>     (40) Space station. An amateur station located more than 50 km above
> the Earth's surface.
>
>
===========================================================================
>
> 73's
>
> Don Woodward
> KD4APP
> AMSAT 33535
> kd4app@amsat.org
> http://kd4app.webhop.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom McDaniel" <tmcdanielsprint@earthlink.net>
> To: "Reicher, James" <JReicher@hrblock.com>; "'Jerry'" <jerco@pi.be>;
> <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 01:00
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ANS
>
>
> A few weeks ago I picked up a copy of Icom's "Amateur Radio Band Plan"
> poster at the Denver HRO.  It shows 432.125 thru 433 MHz as well as 435
thru
> 438 MHz as "Satellite (No FM)."  The fine print on the poster says it was
> "developed by" Gordon West, WB6NOA, and is dated March 2001.
>
> Do you suppose Gordon knew something we didn't?  :-)
>
> 73  Tom  n0ntx
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Reicher, James" <JReicher@hrblock.com>
> To: "'Jerry'" <jerco@pi.be>; <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 7:42 AM
> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] ANS
>
>
> > I believe this is because they are trying to avoid any legal problems,
> since
> > 432.150 is NOT in the Amateur Satellite Service, even though it is still
> in
> > the Amateur Radio Service.
> >
> > 73 de N8AU, Jim in Raymore, MO
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jerry [mailto:jerco@pi.be]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 2:07 PM
> > To: amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I wonder why in the ANS news,the frequenties are not updated from
satelite
> > AO07?
> > There is no mention about uplink on 70cm,so some ham's  don't know they
> can
> > use uplink on 432.150 (+-).
> > I worked some stations on AO07 with my small rig,nice sat by the way.
> >
> > See you on the birds,ON4CJQ.
> >
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