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RE: Special Bulletin - new satellite


Many of the complaints in the amsat-bb are due to the fact that there is
not enough public information to make people comment on facts, and not on
assumptions. The feeling many people have is that a small group of people 
make the decisions without the participation of the community. I believe it 
would be of extreme value if the community were involved in the brain storm 
sessions of what type of technology would be preferable for the next 
satellite project. There will be certainly religious disagreements and 
lots of controversies, but something should emerge and that will probably 
please the majority. 

Take for example the current development of the Linux kernel. It is a very
large endeavor and complex task, but not only the development model is
working (although quite different from academical models), but the
community is always providing input and feed back. Most importantly,
people feel involved and free to contribute if they have the capability.
For an organization like AMSAT, I believe that more people would be
willing to become members if they would have something to make them feel

An open discussion would also contribute to the education of those of us 
who have some interest for the technical side of things.

This is not a critique, but a suggestion based on observation.


-- Edson, 7n4ncl

On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Tom Clark (W3IWI) wrote:

> Claudio commented from Portugal:
> > On Thursday 25 April 2002 20:28, Dan James wrote:
> > >[...]
> > > Dr. Tom Clark, W3IWI, AMSAT-NA BOD member and one of the "spark
> > > plugs" for the original MICROSAT project noted that, "The last major
> > > program that AMSAT-NA managed was the MICROSATS and this is a
> > > superb chance for us to update that legacy with all-new
> > technology." He
> >
> >
> >    Sorry, but I don't see where the new technology is.
> > Sending another FM
> > repeater to orbit is not going to make the money of a new bus
> > be well spent.
> > This is sad.
> Since those words were mine, I'll jump in feet first to amplify. There most
> definitely is some exciting technology planned for this mission (which I
> hope will be the first of many). You may have seen the message requesting
> help for ADCARS posted by Rick Hambly, W2GPS a couple of weeks ago. There is
> a paper that will be in the (next?) AMSAT Journal by Rick describing this
> mission in much more detail than can be gleaned from a press release.
> The FM "EZSAT" capability comes because the satellite needed
> command/control/telemetry and the hardware can be configured to provide a
> couple of EZSAT-like channels "free".
> > > [...]
> > > AMSAT is very proud of its long tradition of excellence and the
> > > contributions it has made to the advancement of space
> > communications,
> > > space education and the space sciences. AMSAT-OSCAR E will be a
> > > new vehicle for Amateur Radio to continue that quest for
> > > communications technologies for future generations.
> > >
> >
> >
> >   You call putting an almost useless FM repeater on orbit "quest for
> > communications technologies for future generations"? This is
> > going backward!
> See my comments above. Another point of reality -- getting a ride for a
> Microsat-class satellite is 10-20 dB easier/cheaper than a high altitude
> flight. Everything about the planned mission is to establish a way to get
> small payloads into orbit with only a year or two lead-time.
> So, Claudio, please be patient until you have heard more about the satellite
> and program.
> 73 de Tom, W3IWI
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