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Re: frequency jumps while listening to AO-40??



It sounds like the magnetorquers were on.  The frequency shift you describe
is common when the attitude is being changed which would be near the perigee
part of the pass.  If you are decoding the beacon you can look at the Magnet
System status on the AO40RCV status page or Magnet Pwr and Magnet Sys on the
Nav page.  If you didn't copy the tlm blocks yourself you can check the tlm
archive in a few days to see if someone else copied the data during the
period in question.

Lee-KU4OS

----- Original Message -----
From: "W3SZ R Rehr" <r1ehr2@epix.net>
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 21:35 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] frequency jumps while listening to AO-40??


> Hello, all!
>
> I am writing with a question about something I observed listening to AO-40
> today.  I was listening to the 2401 MHz downlink and periodically (perhaps
> every few minutes) my received signals (whether my own uplink, another
> station's downlink, or the MB) would shift erratically down in frequency
by
> about 300 Hz, and then return to the original frequency.  This happened
very
> irregularly, but persistently, until MA 220.  After the passband was
turned
> off, the beacon was of course all I could listen to, but whereas it had
been
> erratic as well, it was rock solid in frequency (with the expected Doppler
> drift, of course).  There was no change in signal strength or in the
> background noise level as might occur if there were a problem with the DC
> supply voltage to the UEK-3000.  THe whole thing reminded me of how AO-10
> has sounded when it gets 'flaky'.
>
> I am trying to figure out if this represented a downlink problem here, or
> something with AO-40.
>
> I was not using any automatic doppler correction.
>
> My receive setup is a BBQ dish with a UEK-3000 mounted right at the dish,
> coming down to an ICOM IC-970.
>
> I did the following to check it out.
>
> 1. noted, as above, that it affected both transponder and beacon signals
> from AO-40
>
> 2. Checked my ICOM 970H receiver against a local 2 meter beacon for an
> extended period.  NO frequency shifting observered.  Went back to the bird
> using the same ICOM 970H as receiver IF.  AO-40 signals still jumping.
> Thus, not the ICOM's fault.
>
> 3. I used an alternate source of 12 volts and a bias tee to supply the
> UEK-3000 to see if this made a difference; it didn't.
>
> 4. Used my ICOM 970H 2401 MHZ module to transmit on my super looper while
> receiving on the BBQ / UEK-3000/ICOM 970H combiination on 2401.  NO
> frequency jumping or shifting observed.  This would indicate that it
wasn't
> the satellite receive chain here that was jumping.  By the time I did this
> it was after MA 220, and so I couldn't confirm that the AO-40 downlink was
> still jumping, as after this time the beacon was stable in frequency
except
> for doppler.
>
> 5.  I couldn't use the 2401 module in the IC970 and the super looper to
> compare received frequency stability between this and the UEK-3000 setup
> before MA 220 as the superlooper/2401 module were not sensitive to pick up
> enough signal to do this until the bird was much closer.  (I had forgotten
> how far superior the UEK-3000 and BBQ grill are to the 2 superlooper array
> and the ICOM 2401 module in the 970H).  This would have been definitive,
but
> couldn't be done.
>
> So I wonder if anyone else noticed this instability; I don't think I would
> have noticed it if I was operating SSB, but with CW it was obvious.
>
> There are two possibilities
>
> 1. It was a real AO-40 phenomenon that for some reason stopped when MA 220
> came around (power budget related??)
>
> 2. I have an intermittent problem that just happened to stop when MA 220
> came around.
>
> Any thoughts / help would be appreciated.
>
> 73,
>
> Roger Rehr
> W3SZ   FN20ah
> 2 Merrymount Road
> Reading, PA  19609-1718
> http://www.qsl.net/w3sz
>
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