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RE: dish gain for AO-40

Howdy Y-all,

	Jerry has done a lot of work on this stuff.  In fact, I wouldn't be on
at all without Jerry's help.  Now I need to ask for your help.  I have an
idea to
improve my system.  If anyone has done the dish mods like Jerry has done,
is to cut the dish off square, I would like to know what you did with the
parts you
cut off.  I need them, both pieces.  Anyone have them still sitting in the
taking up space?  If so, and you do not need them, please let me know.


Mike.  KD9KC

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org [mailto:owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org]On
> Behalf Of K5OE@aol.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 12:44 AM
> To: jsharp@psychoses.org; amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org
> Cc: K5GNA@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] dish gain for AO-40
> Hello James.
> jsharp@psychoses.org writes:
> > My downlink dish is one of K5GNA's 2 foot dishes with a modified
> >  down converter...unfortunately, as it stands, its just not enough to
> >  anything but an S3 beacon level and only the strongest QSOs out of the
> >  mud.  My rig is an FT-736 at the end of 20 feet of RG-6 quad shield.
> I suspect your results are typical.  When conditions are optimal (try a
> Western pass when the bird is under 50,000 km and signals are LOUD), you
> should be able to do a little better, and can probably work CW anytime
> without a problem if you can hear the beacon 3 S-units out of the noise.
> is a "whole nutter' story."  Had the S1 transponder stayed working, your
> setup would have been perfectly fine, but the reality of AO-40 today is
> need a little more gain than that 2' system provides.
> >  Any recommendations on what I can do to kick things up a notch, so to
> >  speak?
> Yes!  After reading your query this morning, I decided to go ahead and try
> something I have been thinking about for a while.  I have one of those 2'
> antennas sitting in my garage so I cobbled together a "quickie" test of my
> idea.  If I can get together with Bob over the Christmas break, maybe I
> do one up right and document it all for the all the others out there with
> these 2' systems.
> Here's the "short" version (picture link at bottom) to get an honest 5 dB
> gain with about $20 investment and 2 or 3 hours of work:
> http://members.aol.com/k5oe
> http://members.aol.com/k5oe/K5GNA_dish.jpg
> I had this antenna on AO-40 this afternoon and made several contacts with
>  Using AO-40Rcv, I confirm an increase in signal strength of the beacon,
> cannot really quantify the gain from that observation.
> 73,
> Jerry, K5OE

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