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RE: Starshine, PCsat etc



  It seems reasonable to me for the owner of the equipment
to set the conditions of it's use. If you don't agree with
the conditions, don't use the equipment. 
  If you just have to 'do anything you feel like' there are
lots of other bands/modes.
Steve .. AI7W

-----Original Message-----
From:	Timothy Vermette [SMTP:tvermette@sk.sympatico.ca]
Sent:	Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:18
To:	RMckni8527@aol.com
Cc:	amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org
Subject:	Re: [amsat-bb] Starshine, PCsat etc

I like this part..

"If you accept the conditions of operation for PCsat, please sign this
document and post it in your primary wallpaper location."

Yep... right on the same roll of wall paper I use to wipe myself with. :)

What a crock this is. I operate under the regs in my country and my country
only. I dont recall anywhere that I have to sign a thing to use anything..
As long as I follow the rules I can do anything I feel like. Should this be
a problem with these new sats.. then they can shut them down. Geeze this
sounds almost as bad as that swatch crap from years past.

----- Original Message -----
From: <RMckni8527@aol.com>
To: <Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com>
Cc: <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Starshine, PCsat etc


> In a message dated 10/4/01 12:35:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com writes:
>
> >
> >  As any satellite transmitting on ham frequencies, STARSHINE 3 certainly
> >  works in accordance with the following rule:
> >  "Plain Language. The amateur-satellite service, by its nature, involves
> >  stations of more than one country. International communication between
> >  amateur stations in different countries must be in plain language. [See
RR
> >  S25.2.] The plain language requirement includes telemetry and data
> exchanged
> >  between users.
> >  To meet the plain language requirement, technical descriptions of all
> >  emissions, codes, and formats must be made publicly available."
> >
> >  For more details, see "IARU/AMSAT INFORMATION FOR PROSPECTIVE OWNERS
AND
> >  OPERATORS OF SATELLITES UTILIZING FREQUENCIES ALLOCATED TO THE
> >  AMATEUR-SATELLITE SERVICE" on
> http://www.iaru.org/satellite/prospective.html
> >
> >
> >  Cheers
> >
> >  Jean-Louis F6AGR
>
> I agree - the recent launch of PCsat has similar concerns.  They have
> published a "User Agreement" that intends to stipulate operating
restrictions
> on users around the world.  It directly contradicts IARU principals and
the
> spirit of the Amateur Satellite Service and imposes demands on users that
> limit free experimentation.  It is unenforceable, yet many hams have no
clear
> understanding of its authority.
>
> I hesitate to bring this issue out in the open, but cannot sit idly by and
> watch public tax dollars be thrown away without appropriate scrutiny.
>
> 73's
> Ray - WB3ABN
> Kingston, WA
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