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HERE HERE !!!!!    Without all of the junk as some has put it we would be dead
in the water....   I haven't been on it yet because I am still working out the
mods on my 3733 (done them) haven't heard AO-40 yet but thats part of amateur
radio...to work out the problems and learn...

I would like to see more AO-10 like birds too, but then again AO-40 is in no way
a failure but a testiment to the technical skills of the people who have built

Guy Lemke kd6mtu

Howard Long wrote:

> Michael P. Olbrisch <kd9kc@elp.rr.com> wrote:
> > >You got your P3D, now you want to
> > >cut out the beginners?  AO-40 is nothing more than a gross
> > >disappointment to the majority of hams I know. The promise
> > >of easy simple satellite communications went out the window
> > >with the disaster.
> Laura Halliday replied
> > Reality check: if you can't afford a cheap MMDS downconverter,
> > or one of the nice downconverter kits, how can you possibly
> > afford to be on the Internet, with all the costs that
> > involves?
> There's something interesting happening here - having spoken to a number of
> people at Dayton this year I discovered an extraordinary amount of
> negativity and mis-information about AO-40.
> Of course it's disappointing that _part_ of the satellite is currently not
> working.
> One thing that was never a secret about P3D was that S-Band would be the
> preferred downlink. Indeed, over a year ago I was asking peoples' opinions
> on the BB about what IF's people were thinking of using for S-Band on P3D.
> I'm sure that one reason that there is so much equipment on AO-40 ['all your
> eggs in one basket'] is something called redundancy. Had we only had U & V
> transponders up there we'd now have nothing to use. Nada. Zip.
> I don't believe the issue is to do with cost either. I think that it's more
> to do with the fact that people want stuff delivered to them on a plate
> these days. After all, if you were at all motivated you could get QRV
> listening on 2.4GHz with $50 of equipment in addition to your existing
> satellite radio. Experience tells me, for example, that building a 2.4GHz
> helix for AO-40 is cheaper and easier than a 2m satellite antenna.
> Now if this stuff was delivered to me on a plate I'd get pretty bored rather
> quickly. Maybe people have forgotten what it's like to _achieve_ something.
> I don't think there's an elite group with S-band working AO-40 at all -
> before AO-40 I had no experience of S-band. Indeed 18 months ago I'd never
> even worked a satellite. _All_ of us are learning. Whether you think that
> group is elitist or not, I would hardly say it's dwindling! Indeed, for the
> often disenfranchised apartment dweller, suddenly we have an opportunity to
> operate worldwide which we never had before.
> I agree with Laura here - exactly how easy and cheap do you want it?
> 73 Howard G6LVB
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