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[Fwd: Re: Trading across borders]

I agree with Ed,
The few dollars difference wont make them millionairs and will may give them some
money to make new products which i can drool over next year.

Keith N6ORS

"Edward R. Cole" wrote:

> OK Guys,
> You win!  It cost non-USA hams less to order direct...BUT, Kuhne does not
> sell direct to the USA and they state on their price page at the top:
> http://www.db6nt.com/pricing.html
> "Prices not valid for the USA, please call to SSB Electronic USA,..."
> So its a mute point.  If you live in the USA and want to purchase Kuhne
> Electronics equipment, you deal with SSB.  Now a question that comes to
> mind is whether SSB gets a wholesale price or pays the same as you non-USA
> customers?  If he is paying the same, then he adds his profit on top.  I
> suspect he is not running a no-profit charity, here!  Sorry!  That was a
> bit strong, but I do get a bit frustrated with people who expect companies
> to sell at cost!
> Did you know that standard mark-up from wholesale is 50-100%?  Looks to me
> like SSB is making what?  $145-107/107 = .36 {that is 36% mark up without
> taking into account customs duty which may be 10% or more}
> But, hey.  I like DEM equipment have bought a lot from them.  Usually in
> the USA that will save you a little to a lot of $ on your outlay.  I also
> like the quality of Kuhne products and am willing to pay the moderate
> premium for them.  The surplus convertors are a boon to the whole AO-40
> microwave community.  A definite savings.  I bought three Drakes in 1999
> for $100 [they are not for sale; don't ask].  I look for the bargains, too,
> but sometimes also willing to pay more for assured performance.  I also
> have a personal policy of spreading my ham dollars amongst the ham
> equipment vendors to keep them all in business providing us with a variety
> of neat products.
> In the end, its your choice!  You vote with your dollars, pounds, marks,...
> Ed
> >From: "Paul Willmott" <pwillmott@northrock.bm>
> >I purchased my L band converter and power amp directly from Kuhne, ... the
> >savings over SSB USA were considerable!
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <G0MRF@aol.com>
> >To: <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
> >Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 10:31 PM
> >Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Trading across borders
> >
> >
> >> In a message dated 5/27/01 7:45:57 PM GMT Daylight Time,
> >> owner-AMSAT-BB-digest@AMSAT.Org writes:
> >>
> >> << Of course Kuhne expressly states that US sales are only through SSB
> >>  Electronics.  The shipping charge of 35DM which converts to $15.40 seems
> >>  low to me.  It cost me about $30 for UPS shipping from PA to AK!  What
> >does
> >>  it cost for the monetary exchange?
> >>
> >>  This really does not seem to me that SSB is out of line with its costs.
> >>  I'll bet it would cost an US individual more to buy directly from
> >Germany. >>
> >>
> >> Remember that European countries usually have a sales tax of 15 to 20% on
> >all
> >> goods supplied by medium to large companies. That % can be reclaimed by
> >them
> >> when the goods are exported out of Europe. As the goods travel across
> >another
> >> border the cost may increase slightly with the addition of an import duty
> >or
> >> sales tax.
> >> As an example, if I import any ham radio equipment with a value of greater
> >> than 25 dollars into the UK it has about 4% import duty and 17.5% Value
> >Added
> >> Tax added. This makes trade from US to the UK an expensive business, but
> >it
> >> should be significantly better in the other direction as the price
> >advertised
> >> in Europe will be 15-20% higher than the same goods without European Value
> >> added tax. So the margin may be even larger than we think
> >>
> >> The cost of shipping will usually include insurance and that is very
> >> important. Here in the UK I can ship something of an equivalent weight by
> >air
> >> to the USA for about 6 dollars but if it goes missing  all I get is 10 x
> >the
> >> value of the stamps..and that is at the post offices discretion. In the
> >end
> >> you're trading cost with risk. The only problem is usually the company
> >will
> >> not give you a choice. I recently paid 40 dollars to ship a laser diode
> >from
> >> Austria to London. The same component sent as a letter without insurance
> >> would have cost 2 dollars......Ouch...
> >>
> >> Finally, my two tickets for Dayton were ordered in March for a total of 36
> >> dollars. For some reason they arrived by expensive courier at a cost to
> >the
> >> Hamvention organisers of 20 dollars.
> >> I would have been happy to collect at the door, but that was the policy.
> >>
> >> Monetary exchange costs on a credit card are quite low at apx 1.5 to 2%
> >and
> >> these can also have a last resort level of insurance on your purchase
> >> depending on the type of card.
> >>
> >> 73 es happy shopping
> >>
> >> David  G0MRF
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