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Re: Re: [sarex] ISS Transmissions and the Concordski



Deon

I think the front Canard was in the retracted position when on the ground.
They deploy it in the once in the air . That's why they sent a Mirage t o
try to take pictures with it extended.

KF4VND


----- Original Message -----
From: Deon Erwin <zr1dq@qsl.net>
To: Jose Mihotel <jmihotek@gte.net>; <Richard@g3rwl.demon.co.uk>
Cc: Amsat Reflector <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: [sarex] ISS Transmissions and the Concordski


> I do not wish to belabour this thread on the BB.  But...
>
> There is a lot of speculation about this incident and it was never
confirmed
> that the Mirage pilot is responsible for the accident.
>
> The Concorde had first slot to do its show and was very impressive.  The
> Concordski was next with Russia's foremost test pilot in the cockpit.  He
> took off from the runway in front of the spectators and immediately banked
> very steeply to the left (away from the spectators), as well as climbing
too
> steep.  The gas turbines flamed out and the pilot put the aircraft into an
> unusually steep dive.  The speculation is that he wanted to gain some
speed
> to give him time to restart the engines.  Sadly, he was much too close to
> the ground for any action to succeed.
>
> The Russian authorities would not allow anyone near the crash scene and
> could not explain the pilot's behaviour.  One can only conclude that he
> wanted to "out perform" the previous show, as the Concord pilot did a
> similar spectacular climbing manoeuvre.  Later, it came to light that a
> Mirage was in the air and that is when the Russians tried to blame the
> accident on the French.  That is how the secret photograph story emerged.
> However, the Concordski was on the ground prior to the flight and anybody
> with a long lens could have photographed it.
>
> Perhaps the French were photographing the Concordski, but the air traffic
> radar showed that all was well.  I saw this air show accident on video and
> the Mirage was nowhere in sight.  The accident investigators reported
> possible pilot error.
>
> Deon ZR1DQ
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jose Mihotel <jmihotek@gte.net>
> To: <Richard@g3rwl.demon.co.uk>
> Cc: <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 2:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: [sarex] ISS Transmissions
>
>
> > Richard:
> >
> > The reason their demo aircraft crashed at the Paris airshow is that they
> > almost had a mid-air collision with a french Mirage that was spying on
> them.
> > It was flying a Photo mission to rying to get close=up pictures of the
> front
> > canard that they use. They were not supposed to be  in the airshow
> airspace
> > at all. When the russian pilot saw them comming head on, he pulled up to
> > avoid the midair, stalling the supersonic engines. Because of the
relative
> > low altitude, recovery was impossible.
> > I read this in either Air & Space Journal  or another aviation magazine.
> >
> > Do you really think that I think NASA or JPL would rent the aircraft to
do
> > research if it had a flaw??
> >
> > KF4VND
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Richard W L Limebear <Richard@g3rwl.demon.co.uk>
> > To: <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 5:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: [sarex] ISS Transmissions
> >
> >
> > > "Jose Mihotek" writes:
> > >
> > > > They also built
> > > > their own Concord version that was more efficient than the British
> one.
> > >
> > > It'd be a bit difficult ... they used stolen plans which included a
> > > deliberate flaw (don't ask me how I know that). It was so efficient
that
> > it
> > > crashed at the Paris air show while the European's Concordes carried
on
> > > flying (until they were clobbered by a US airline).
> > >
> > > > I am a Russian technology admirer.
> > >
> > > Their technology isn't all rubbish - its just different (and some is
> > neat).
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Richard W L Limebear G3RWL
> > > g3rwl@amsat.org
> > > FOC # 1188
> > >
> > >           So many beautiful girls ..... (sob) so little time
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