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Re: Re: [sarex] ISS Transmissions



John

I stand corrected.

By the way, I am a big fan of the US Space Program.

KF4VND


----- Original Message -----
From: John Morley <amsat@endeavour-usa.com>
To: Jose Mihotel <jmihotek@gte.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: [sarex] ISS Transmissions


> Jose,
>
> I think that you are incorrect. Skylab was damaged during launch, when I
> believe, falling chunks of ice
> which had formed on the skin of the rocket, damaged the exterior during
> liftoff. As a result, a thermal shield
> and a solar array were lost causing the overheating and lack of power that
> you mention. The effect you
> cite is correct, but the cause was accidental, not as a result of faulty
> design. By the way, the Astronauts did
> manage to jury rig an "umbrella" sunshade on the station to salvage the
> mission. In spite of the problems, I
> think that overall the mission was a success, and certainly a testament to
> NASA's creativity "on-orbit"!
>
> John KA1JMF
>
>
> >Robert:
> >
> >Correct me if I'm wrong.
> >
> >Skylab did not work very well. It was too small and it overheated because
> >someone forgot to design some thermal insulation. In fact it stayed for 7
> >months un-inhabited until they figured out to go back and juri-rig a
solar
> >shade to make things barely livable. It was severely underpowered among
> >other problems.It is all docummented.
> >
> >KF4VND
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Robert Oler <cvn65vf94@msn.com>
> >To: <fcosta@mail.telepac.pt>
> >Cc: <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 6:09 PM
> >Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: [sarex] ISS Transmissions
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Francisco Costa" <fcosta@mail.telepac.pt>
> > > >Reply-To: "Francisco Costa" <fcosta@mail.telepac.pt>
> > > >To: "Robert Oler" <cvn65vf94@msn.com>, <kk5do@AMSAT.Org>
> > > >CC: <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
> > > >Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: [sarex] ISS Transmissions
> > > >Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:16:07 -0000
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: Robert Oler <cvn65vf94@msn.com
> > > >
> > > > >  Their stuff is technological junk.
> > > >
> > > >May I suggest you watch Discovery Channel special report about ISS.
> > > >NASA Cheif Eng. has quite a different prespective on the subject.
> > > >And I think he knows what he's talking about!
> > > >
> > > >Actually facts speak for itself. Or did you forget Skylab???
> > > >
> > > >Best 73
> > > >F.Costa, CT1EAT
> > > >
> > > I dont understand your reference to Skylab.  Skylab worked "really
well".
> > > It recovered from a launch problem (the port solar array went away)
and
> >then
> > > worked quite fine.  The NASA "chief engineer" is repeating the party
line
> > > which is the Russians make a valued contribution etc etc.
> > >
> > > If you want some datum point on how well their stuff works you might
> >instead
> > > review some of the "task orders" for Mir.  Although Ivan did some
> > > interesting stuff there most of his time was spent "maintaining" the
> >systems
> > > of the vehicle.  In other words it would be like taking a submarine to
sea
> > > and simply maintaining the sub.  Now part of this can be blamed on no
> > > contiunal replacement...Mir's batteries for instance are shot...but a
> >great
> > > deal of it can be blamed on bad design.
> > >
> > > Now I am not a fan of ISS.  If you have purused Space News and other
> > > technical publications you will recognize my name as someone who has
been
> >an
> > > outspoken critic of "our" design.  But the fact remains (take a deep
> >breath)
> > > that right now the space station is one fan away from everyone coming
home
> > > because the Russian carbon dioxide scrubber which was supose to be
brand
> >new
> > > has already gone through well 5 years worth of spares.
> > >
> > > I dont know what your background is but I have spent sometime at JSC,
> > > sometime doing "special" things for a military service in terms of
> > > spaceflight (no I havent flown in space) and that includes some time
at
> >STar
> > > City.  I've flown in "their" microgravity aircraft and done something
most
> > > Americans havent done...I jumped out of it when they were finished.
> > >
> > > In the end Ivan's stuff is "unique" but space capable...not.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Robert Oler WB5MZO Houston TX
> > >
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