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Re: Re: [sarex] ISS Transmissions


Correct me if I am wrong.

The most reliable rocket motor in history is Russian. In fact we are buying
it and retrofitting our rockets with it. It's cheaper, more reliable, more
powerful and it attaches to the rocket in four places. The connections
necessary are another four I think. It takes a days work and you install the
engine on the rocket.
Our own engine requires something like 2500 connections, that is wires,
hydraulic lines, etc...
I saw this on TV I think it was Discovery channel or another show about

The most powerful rocket is also Russian. Only they could have lifted the
biggest components of the ISS. That's why they built those components.
Because they needed to be large and we don't have that size lifting

About their fighters, they are just great. They can operate from unimproved
airstrips ( rough compacted dirt with a lot of debris like  loose gravel).
They shift their intake nozzle to the top of the wing so that they don't
absorb debris during take-off. Our fighters cannot do that. They also built
their own Concord version that was more efficient than the British one. In
fact we rent it to do supersonic research. That was also on the Discovery
channel. they are so broke that if we don't rent or buy their technology
they would have to scrap it for lack of money for maintenance.

I am a Russian technology admirer.


Where ours are much, much better , is on weapons systems (electronics). No
question about that.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jon Ogden <na9d@mindspring.com>
To: Robert Oler <cvn65vf94@msn.com>; <kk5do@AMSAT.Org>
Cc: <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: [sarex] ISS Transmissions

> on 12/27/00 1:54 PM, Robert Oler at cvn65vf94@msn.com wrote:
> > The Russians
> > act like they are somebody when in effect they are nobody in terms of
> > space station.  Their stuff is technological junk.  Its about like their
> > fighter planes...they look the part and then you get to fight against
> > and fly them and you say "UHHHH kludge" but its the best that their
> > technology can do.
> >
> > Some of their stuff is "entertaining" but in the end the only real
marvel of
> > it is that they did so much with so little.  Sorry I am not one of these
> > folks who admires Russian technology.
> Robert,
> I've disagreed with you vehemently in the past few weeks on some issues,
> on this one, I must say I cannot agree more!  The Russian participation in
> the ISS is, IMHO, a disaster.  Yes, they have experience, but to let them
> build some of the most crucial parts of the station is just unthinkable.
> Look at all the problems MIR has had.  You can't blame it on 20 year old
> technology because it was continually upgraded.  Back in the cold war days
> everyone feared the Russian military.  Yet every time American firepower
> weaponry has gone up against the Russian stuff, we've kicked their butts.
> Look at how much everyone feared the T72 (was that it?) in Iraq.  Yet the
> tanks were targeting and taking out the Russian built ones before the
> Russian built tanks could even SEE the US ones!
> It is scary to think that at least for now, the major components of the
> station are built on Russian technology.  I wish we would have stuck with
> Ronald Reagan's plan for the space station: build it ourselves.  But to
> undertake a project like this by ourselves and for ourselves would not
> been politically correct, would it?  Who cares about cost.  The Russians
> have no money and we are basically footing the bill anyhow.  We could do
> better, faster, cheaper here.
> I don't mean to insult any Russian friends who may be on the BB.  Far from
> that.  I think it is amazing how much they have done with nothing, but it
> not first rate Western technology either.
> 73,
> Jon
> NA9D
> -------------------------------------
> Jon Ogden
> NA9D (ex: KE9NA)
> http://www.qsl.net/ke9na
> "A life lived in fear is a life half lived."
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