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Re: FM Satellite Etiquette question....


This was one of the reasons that I gave up and quit Amateur Radio!


People get their dander up and start fights and make the hobby undesirable for
those of us who just want to talk.
I had alot of friends on 2M and 6M along with some people that we just got
together to have fun.

My wife heard some of what was going on and told me to not have that "garbage"
on because she hated to hear all of the infighting. I think that maybe since
there are those who act like CBer's that maybe we should just let them cuss and
fume and intentionally jam and completely destroy ham radio the way that CB was
destroyed {sarcasm intended}!!!!!

I am considering jumping back in again, but this post makes me wonder if it is
going to just be the same

My kids take a Karate class and each week they must bow to the instructor and
say the watch word.

It has been words like MANNERS, RESPECT & a few others that really try to get
home that when you treat others the way that you want to be treated that you get
what you give. You know: GOLDEN RULE!!!!!

Maybe it is time for the ARRL, FCC, ITU and others to start slapping fines on
RUDE and OBNOXIOUS operators.
If someone is jamming a satellite or repeater or just being nasty, it is time to
stop it from continuing.

I have demonstrated radio equipment before for young kids that are very
Guess what happened, yep; I ran into a NASTY ham who did not leave a good image!

That was 20 years ago and here we go again.

Because someone could not get POINTS for a CONTEST; all this junk pops up again.

People take competition too seriously!

It does not mean anything!

It is just a game!

Sounds like the Cornhuskers (Big Red) in Nebraska.
If they cannot win or run up the points on the opposing team, then they are not

No one should get upset in these contests and no one should take advantage!
I thought there were rules?
I thought there was judges?
denmorr@bellsouth.net wrote:

> Kevin:
> I never tried to justify it as good behavior.  But when my club tries to
> operate the satellites and we are totally blocked for 15 minutes each by a
> club that includes an AMSAT Vice President, we're not going to take the high
> road..we're taking them head on.  All we were trying for was ONE contact for
> the bonus points.  The offending station made contact after contact contest
> style.  So please forgive my poor operating practices one day a year.  I'll
> try to do better the rest of the year.
> 73,
> Dennis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE <wb5rue@arrl.net>
> To: <denmorr@bellsouth.net>; <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 4:37 PM
> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] FM Satellite Etiquette question....
> > Does this present a bad example to our fellow hams?  ESPECIALLY if it's
> > coming from a club station?  Wouldn't you consider it a violation of
> > 97.313(a) calling for the minimum power necessary?  Surly your reasoning
> > isn't "well they're doing it...."  This would get you nowhere in defending
> > yourself against an FCC pink slip (or whatever color they are).  I don't
> > want to seem anal-retentive but this is just the sort of thing that we
> > want.  We certainly don't want to get into the "my linear/ERP is bigger
> than
> > yours" type contests of 11-meters.
> >
> > It's going to be difficult enough for the new generation of hams to prove
> > themselves in the eyes of many old-timers, let's not make it more
> difficult
> > than it already is by setting bad examples.
> >
> > 73/
> > Kevin, WB5RUE
> > el09vf
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: denmorr@bellsouth.net [mailto:denmorr@bellsouth.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 2:46 PM
> > > To: wb5rue@arrl.net; 'Bob Snyder'; amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org
> > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Satellite Etiquette question....
> > >
> > >
> > > Kevin and Bob:
> > > ...
> > > I know these clubs aren't modifying their habits - so my club
> > > is planning to
> > > run 200 watts and stacked yagis into the FM birds for Field Day.
> > >
> > > Moderate power and good operating tactics go a long way.
> > >
> > > Bob, I apologize for brushing off your inquiry and hope I
> > > answered your
> > > questions.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Dennis C. Morris
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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