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Re: A launch prep - coverage campaigne...

I tend to agree with Jon on this one.  I didn't personally get involved in 
Sats until earlier this year because I always thought that it took too much 
technical knowledge and too much equipment to successfully work the 
birds.  I too had the opinion that it was an elitist bunch.

What I have discovered in the AMSAT organization (Hereby to be referred to 
as .. The Community) is a bunch of pretty great guys who have helped me at 
every major and minor snag.  I've never seen such a thing in my life.  Back 
in 1985 when I first got my license, I was still in High School and the 
world was a different place.  I used to wonder around my neighborhood and 
knock on doors of hams in the area.  They always welcomed me in, showed me 
their stations, and offered me a cup of coffee/coke/beverage and sometimes 
even cookies.

What I have discovered in this group is that it's very much the same.  Even 
if it is on a cyber level.

I have just recently moved to a new area of the country.  One of my primary 
goals is to find the Sat Operators in the area.  I found one person who 
lives literally down the street from me who also just moved in and used to 
be active.  He is likely to become active again.

The question that needs to be asked is this:  Who have you invited over 
lately to give a demo too?  Who have you whipped out your Arrow and 
handheld for and shown them how to do it?  By de-mystifying the experience, 
you add the element of fun back into it.  When I was getting started, Ken 
KD3VK handed me a 736, a couple of antennas, amplifiers, a DSP Modem and a 
box full of books.  We need more ambassadors like this.

Phase 3D is an awesome project and is likely to bring a lot of would be sat 
ops out of the closet and back on the air.  The trick will be to see how 
many people we can each recruit to come onboard with our vision and 
dream.  As far as a public service aspect to this, that will happen.  Don't 
be surprised when we have a weekly traffic net meeting on the bird.

Dave, N8KXA

At 21:13 9/14/00 -0500, Jon Ogden wrote:
>on 9/14/00 4:58 PM, hmose@sover.net at hmose@sover.net wrote:
> > That's for sure. Like the two bills Clinton recently
> > vetoed (with no over-ride) the events in French
> > Guiana are going to be seen, from a GEO orbit, as to
> > only benefit the wealthy. How can anyone perceive any
> > public benefit when there is none?? As I have said on
> > this reflector before, there should be a public service
> > aspect to everything we do. In the coming days, when we
> > make public announcements about P3D, we should
> > demonstrate that we will DO SOMETHING WORTHWHILE with
> > this expensive toy.
>No we don't need to fill the satellite up with public service.  The
>worthwhile something is the fact that hams, who have this hobby as a hobby,
>spent their time and money and efforts to design this bird.  Sure it's
>elitist.  I've done microwave radio design and I'd love to someday help
>build a bird, but I know NOTHING of orbital mechanics and how to put a
>satellite in space.  Do you?
>Putting P3D up really IS rocket science.  It IS done by eggheads (no insult
>intended) and unless the general ham community puts up the $$ I think those
>of us who are in Amsat can do whatever we want with the bird.
>The public benefit and the benefit to our hobby is that this satellite has
>some really cutting edge technology.  For example, with the laser
>experiment, we will try to communicate into space with a laser beam.  Or at
>least receive a signal.  Has it been done before?  I don't know and if so,
>not often.
>There does not need to be a public service benefit to everything we do.  We
>PAID for the satellite.  Those of us who joined Amsat are part of that.  We
>bought it.  We put our time into it.  Public service is a great aspect and
>necessary one in our hobby.  However, other charters also include the
>fostering of international good will.  Our birds sure do that.  Not
>everything in ham radio involves public service.  If I rag chew with a
>buddy, there is no public service aspect in that.  So I guess in your view
>it's useless.
>Would I favor using P3D to help in a disaster if it was the BEST means of
>communication?  ABSOLUTELY.  But to specifically dedicate P3D with the theme
>of public service is ludicrous.
> >
> > It could watch marine digital emergency channel 70
> > (156.525 Mhz) for example and transpond onto a downlink
> > any data received. Perfectly legal as this is an
> > emergency only channel. There is a miriad of things our
> > satellites could do for the amateur community in
> > general.
> >
>Why?  I am sure there are tons of other services and satellites already
>doing this.  What more can we bring to the party than someone like the Navy
>or Coast Guard???
>Yes, I will agree there is a perception about Amsat that we are a bunch of
>elitists.  I know because I used to think that way.  Then I discovered the
>birds and decided to check out Amsat.  I couldn't have been more wrong!
>This group is not at all elitist.  However, having pictures of the P3D
>campaign on the website won't help that.  People who think we are elitist
>won't go and visit it any how.  We would need to have the pictures on some
>place like the ARRL site where a larger percentage of the ham population
>visits.  But still given that we have far more ham radio ops in the USA then
>ARRL members, only a small portion is still reached.
>Pictures of the launch campaign, live video, etc. are nice.  They help us
>who are waiting on pins and needles.  However, they do little for the
>average Joe ham who wears his shack on his belt.  The best way for Amsat to
>appear non-elitist is at the local level.  By those of us who are members
>elmering other people about the birds.  By "evangelizing" the ham community
>about what we do, we will be far more effective than just having pictures
>coming out of Kouru.
>Jon Ogden
>NA9D (ex: KE9NA)
>"A life lived in fear is a life half lived."
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