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Re: FO-20- Don't Give Up

Very, very, very good points.

Remember that FO-20, FO-29 and AO-10 are INVERTING.  Meaning LSB up and USB
down.  Plus remember that the frequency inverts as well.  Being at the low
end of the uplink passband means being at the high end of the downlink

The best way to find yourself is to create a little chart overlaying the
uplink and downlink passbands.  In the inverting birds, one of the scales
will need to be "backwards" to make sense.  Basically draw a line and put
the bottom of the uplink band on the top and (for the inverting birds) the
top of the downlink band on the bottom.  Then increase the frequency by say
10 kc on the top and decrease it 10 kc on the bottom.  Make another mark and
continue onward until you reach the end of the passbands.  These are the
frequencies that would correspond to each other if you had no doppler.  I
think these charts are available from AMSAT as well.  If you start with
these in mind, you will be very close to finding your self and will only
have to tune a few KCs.  Try to listen to the beacon first.  If you are 5
kc's off the beacon frequency, then your downlink and uplink frequencies
will be off by about 5 kcs as well.  It's all pretty simple once you get the
hang of it.

Also, all the activity hangs out in the MIDDLE of the passbands, NOT the
ends.  It's unlike HF and even small signal VHF/UHF were most of the
activity is at the low end of the band segments.  Activity tends to be in
the middle.  So if you call and no one has heard you, you may be in the
wrong portion of the band.  I know I made that mistake several times before
I accidentally discovered my error.


----- Original Message -----
From: <k6yk@juno.com>
To: <tiptond@psi.com>
Cc: <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FO-20- Don't Give Up

> Hi Dave(s) and others,
> Don't give up on The analog birds. It takes a little practice to know
> which way is up
> and which way is down, etc.
> There is not as much activity on those birds, but the quality of the
> QSO's is much
> better! (It's not just all "contest style" QSO's).
> Getting into the bird is the easy part.  Hearing is the hard part, same
> as with the
> FM birds. You need  a decent antenna and maybe a preamp, too.  Actually
> you can
> do with a fair antenna and a preamp.
> Find a spot where you know you are hearing yourself and make a note of
> it, so
> when the next pass comes along you can start at that same spot to get
> your
> antennas lined up and hear yourself.   You might want to make a note of
> that same
> uplink/downlink relationship at the beginning, middle, end of the pass so
> you'll know
> where to look for yourself as the doppler changes.
> Don't get way at the bottom or the top of the passband, stay around the
> middle some-
> place. Some stations don't tune around very much and they may not find
> you
> calling CQ.
> Many times I've called CQ a lot with no answer, but I hear other stations
> engaged in
> QSO's, so I go to their frequency and check in with them.  MOST of the
> stations on
> just about any satellite will welcome "breakers" and make a round-table
> QSO.
> Good luck!
> 73,
> John, K6YK
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