Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Stop Your Whining Already! / Satellite FIeld Day!

[Glenn Little <glittle@xxxxxxxx>]

At 12:19 PM 7/7/00 -0400, Lee810@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 7/7/00 7:01:19 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
>jono@enteract.com writes:
>
> > If I am running 100 Watts to 22 elements to the bird and it is at a LOW
> >  angle pass for me while you are running 5 watts to 3 elements and it is
> >  directly overhead for you, YOU MIGHT BE THE BIGGER STATION!!!  Guys,
> >  understand that working a satellite is NOT a linear thing.  People with
> >  overhead passes are far more able to work the bird better than those who
> >  have low angle passes.  It's the difference of the satellite being a few
> >  hundred miles away vs a few thousand!
>
>No,...YOU will be the bigger station because you're running more power and
>antenna gain.  That's the definition of a big station.  My signal may be
>bigger for a small window of time that the bird is overhead, but even if the
>bird goes directly over my position, I'll be on the fringe of the footprint
>for the beginning and ending (i.e. the majority) of the pass anyway.  Simply
>being on the edge of a satellite footprint is no excuse to use excessive
>power levels.
>
>When it's possible to work an FM bird from horizon to horizon with less than
>5 watts into a 3 element beam, why would anyone be working it with 100W into
>a 22 element beam?  Would it be to wrestle control of the bird away from
>those running lower power levels?

No, the reason is total disregard for authority (FCC) and I'll get my way 
no matter what!  The FCC rules were written to avoid this same 
situation.  Use minimum power to communicate.  I grade school they also 
taught me not to talk while others are talking.  I guess the Big Guns are 
excluded from common decency and the FCC rules.  Why would anyone other 
than a LID use a 100W and a long beam to access a bird that can be accessed 
with less than 5W and a short handheld beam.  I guess you makeup your 
inability to operate with more power!



>If someone really wants to correct the bad FD behavior we should make an MP3
>or Real Audio recording available on a server that preserves for all eternity
>the misbehavior of the offending stations.  This would go a long way to
>prevent the same thing from happening again.   We could call it the
>"Satellite Operators Hall of Shame".  :-)

Place the LIDs where everyone can identify them with their own style of 
operating procedure.  Riley Hollingswoth made a comment at a hamfest that 
it is proven that brain damage does occur due to RF.  He mentioned an 80M 
and 20M frequency, I guess he missed the frequency of the satellite as a cause.


>Lee Devlin, KØLEE  (K0LEE)
>Greeley, CO
>http://members.aol.com/lee810/ham.html
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