Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Stop Your Whining Already! / Satellite FIeld Day!(fwd)

[Scott E Olitsky <solitsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:06:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Scott E Olitsky <solitsky@acsu.buffalo.edu>
To: Gary "Joe" Mayfield <ka0yos@AMSAT.Org>
Cc: solitsky@buffalo.edu
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Stop Your Whining Already! / Satellite FIeld Day!

I do see a difference in HF vs satellite "pileups".  There is at least
some skill involved in an HF pileup with timing, freq selection, etc to
work dx.  Having a huge station certainly helps but is not a 100% sure
thing to work the station.  On an FM satellite the biggest guy wins each
time.  I have lost interest in DX pileups andFM satellites have become far
less enjoyable for the same reason.  There is just not that much challenge
in putting together a station that will run more power to the bird, there
leaves little operator skill to work them.  

Running qrp to RS13 with an HT and a portable receiver is far more
enjoyable but more difficult

Scott
AC3A

On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Gary "Joe" Mayfield wrote:

> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dennis Morris <denmorr@bellsouth.net>
> To: <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
> Cc: <kk5yy@arrl.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 7:12 AM
> Subject: Fw: Stop Your Whining Already! Re: [amsat-bb] Satellite FIeld Day!
> 
> 
>  > I share KK5YY's sentiments - several groups - 2 in particular, including a
>  > group using the call of an AMSAT officer - assembled mega-stations for
> Field
>  > Day with hundreds of watts and huge antennas. They then dominated UO-14
> and
>  > AO-27 every pass, preventing many groups (including mine) from making any
>  > contacts.  I thought the intent of the satellite bonus was to encourage
>  > satellite exposure, not to pile up points.
>  >
>  > Until the rules are changed, my group is planning a mega-station for next
>  > year - guess we'll just add to the problem.
>  >
>  > I would suggest to ARRL changing the rules - perhaps a power limit and
> only
>  > one contact on each FM bird for points.
>  >
>  > 73,
>  > Dennis C. Morris
>  > WA4ZJJ
> 
> ^^^^^^  A great deal clipped. ^^^^^^^
> 
> The ARRL does not encourage this.  We do (you, me and the rest of the AMSAT
> community).  The way the ARRL scores satellite contacts there is no real
> reason to make more than one satellite contact, but the AMSAT Field Day
> competition is another matter.  I am as "guilty" as the next guy in
> competing the AMSAT competition (it's fun!).  In fact, I submitted a log
> this year as well.
> 
> The real question is do we want to have contests on the satellites?  These
> conditions will persist as long as we operate under contest conditions.
> People running stacked 5 element monobanders have an advantage on HF, other
> operators have come to accept this.
> 
> In the past we strongly discouraged contesting on satellites.  The more I
> think about this maybe it was the right thing to do.
> 
> My Opinion - 73,
> Joe
> 
> P.S. Please send all flames to ka0yos@amsat.org
> 
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